Obama's Dog

[Shawnee123]

From an animal rights perspective, and no I'm not PETA, it seems to me to be cruel to have designer dogs beget designer dogs that are ill-equipped for a birthing process, knowing full well surgery is probably doing to have to be done. You say spaying is more dangerous...I don't think that makes sense.

However, the initial point of this thread, if I understood correctly, was that people who think they are "rescuing" dogs may be getting a dog that isn't A-Number One Top of the Chop Dog, and isn't that too up to the family and the vet? Somehow, they have failed miserably in doing good?

For instance, you imply that they may have been abused, and inclined to meanness. What about an entire breed in which everything I read about it is their poor temperment, that is borne to that specific breed?

Many of us will love our critters, flaws and all, just as we love our flawed humans.

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

From an animal rights perspective, and no I'm not PETA, it seems to me to be cruel to have designer dogs beget designer dogs that are ill-equipped for a birthing process, knowing full well surgery is probably doing to have to be done. You say spaying is more dangerous...I don't think that makes sense.

However, the initial point of this thread, if I understood correctly, was that people who think they are "rescuing" dogs may be getting a dog that isn't A-Number One Top of the Chop Dog, and isn't that too up to the family and the vet? Somehow, they have failed miserably in doing good?

For instance, you imply that they may have been abused, and inclined to meanness. What about an entire breed in which everything I read about it is their poor temperment, that is borne to that specific breed?

Many of us will love our critters, flaws and all, just as we love our flawed humans.

Well you cannot believe everything you read , experience outweighs speculation. A designer dog is the cross breeding of two different breeds to get a "special dog" a designer created mutt, so I am not sure what you mean by your statement on designer dogs.

Rescued dogs generally come from pet mills that went under or were raided for abusive care. These are dogs that have lived their entire life as breeding machines usually in confinement. A situation that I believe is not good for raising dogs. Some are permanently damaged mentally from that type of situation. Rarer breeds like the Portuguese Water Dogs are not going to be in rescue situations because they are not an easy breed to get or any easy breed to market by commercial pet millers. I never said they were inclined towards meanness some are just cage crazy or so shy if you pick them up they crap down the front of your shirt. Not really a dog suited for a family with children. {some rescue dogs}

People trained in animal husbandry learn selective breeding. Ethical breeders would select against traits that they find undesirable. I prefer free whelping dogs but sometimes that doesn't happen. That's why you prepare in the beginning by finding the best veterinary care available to you. I have cows and one would not expect that they would need a c section but every once in awhile that baby is not coming out. Rather than have the mother and the baby die by the miracle of modern veterinary medicine c sections are available.

What makes the surgery dangerous is the anesthetic and dogs die every day from dental cleanings, shall we not clean teeth?