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Nirvana · 03-18-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

I support every single thing listed on that link. In California, the people get to vote on issues like this. I know, I lived there for 10 years, and I voted on the horse meat issue. California is a very pet-oriented state, and the people there will probably vote to protect animals.

In addition, the link you provided to the legislation, it seemed pretty reasonable to me.

The people in Los Angeles did not vote on that issue their representatives did and I think you will see a change in representatives because of their actions.

How are animals being protected when neutering is mandatory? Many of the people that have lower incomes will be dumping their animals because they cannot afford the procedures or the fines for not having the neutering done. This will cost the city of Los Angeles more money and more dogs will be euthanized. I am sure when the tax rates go up to cover the cost of that fiasco some of the people are not going to think it was reasonable.

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

The people in Los Angeles did not vote on that issue their representatives did and I think you will see a change in representatives because of their actions.

Excuse me, I was LIVING THERE when it was on the ballot the first time. I VOTED ON IT.

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How are animals being protected when neutering is mandatory? Many of the people that have lower incomes will be dumping their animals because they cannot afford the procedures or the fines for not having the neutering done. This will cost the city of Los Angeles more money and more dogs will be euthanized. I am sure when the tax rates go up to cover the cost of that fiasco some of the people are not going to think it was reasonable.

They are just trying to cut down on the feral population and the ENORMOUS number of animals being put to sleep every year. It seems to me that you are being kinda irrational about this issue.

How will cost the city more money? If they cut down on the stray popultion, it would save them money. For lower income people, there are organizations they help pay for the services. That doesn't cost the city, they are charities.

Nirvana · 03-19-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Excuse me, I was LIVING THERE when it was on the ballot the first time. I VOTED ON IT.

The only way you personally voted, was for who you elected to the city council. Oh wait are you on the city council?? Its ok to have an opinion but don't make stuff up.

http://laanimalservices.blogspot.com...r-measure.html

This measure will only increase shelter killing because those that cannot afford to have their pets neutered will be dumping them to avoid the fines.

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 06:28 PM

Please do your homework. In California, they put things on the ballot and allow people to vote on them.

http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/archives/id/13616/

Two propositions about animal rights will appear on the ballot in November, thanks to the initiative of grassroots organizations in California.

Over 700,000 citizens signed petitions for both measures so that voters will decide whether Propositions 4 and 6 will become California law.

Proposition 4 prohibits the use of a "padded steel-jawed leg hold trap" when catching fur-bearing or non-game mammals for commercial or recreational use. It also prohibits the use of two specific poisons...

Proposition 6 makes the possession, transfer, or receipt of horses for slaughter for human consumption a felony...

TGRR · 03-19-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Proposition 6 makes the possession, transfer, or receipt of horses for slaughter for human consumption a felony...

Why?

Nirvana · 03-19-2009, 07:31 PM

So that people could dump their horses all over the state when they can longer afford to feed them. Thats happening now all over the country because there is really no other recourse.

Oh I see you voted in 1998 on the spay and neuter ordinance the City of Los Angeles passed in February 2009, whatever SP

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

So that people could dump their horses all over the state when they can longer afford to feed them. Thats happening now all over the country because there is really no other recourse.

Oh I see you voted in 1998 on the spay and neuter ordinance the City of Los Angeles passed in February 2009, whatever SP

I SAID I voted on the HORSE MEAT issue. YOU don't read well.

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 09:28 PM

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Why?

Well, back when the ammendment was on the ballot, apparently more than a few people got really upset when they found out their pet horses, which they had sold, were being transported into other states and ground up as meat for consumption. Most people who keep horses as pets would never consider selling them for this purpose. They thought they were going to loving families. So, it caused an uproar. there were people buying the horses under the pretense that they were going to keep them as pets. And then, there's this... ...It said that horses are killed in cruel and unusual ways when they are slated as food, because euthanasia ruins the meat of the animals...

TGRR · 03-19-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Well, back when the ammendment was on the ballot, apparently more than a few people got really upset when they found out their pet horses, which they had sold, were being transported into other states and ground up as meat for consumption. Most people who keep horses as pets would never consider selling them for this purpose. They thought they were going to loving families. So, it caused an uproar. there were people buying the horses under the pretense that they were going to keep them as pets. And then, there's this... ...It said that horses are killed in cruel and unusual ways when they are slated as food, because euthanasia ruins the meat of the animals...

No it doesn't. You run an electrode up their arse and *zap*. So long, Black Beauty.

Nirvana · 03-19-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Excuse me, I was LIVING THERE when it was on the ballot the first time. I VOTED ON IT.

Just for fun SP

again no you did not vote on it the city council of Los Angeles voted on it.

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Excuse me, I was LIVING THERE when it was on the ballot the first time. I VOTED ON IT.

Just for fun SP

again no you did not vote on it the city council of Los Angeles voted on it.

I was talking about the HORSE MEAT. My god you are dense.

03-19-2009, 06:28 PM	#4
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	Please do your homework. In California, they put things on the ballot and allow people to vote on them. http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/archives/id/13616/ Two propositions about animal rights will appear on the ballot in November, thanks to the initiative of grassroots organizations in California. Over 700,000 citizens signed petitions for both measures so that voters will decide whether Propositions 4 and 6 will become California law. Proposition 4 prohibits the use of a "padded steel-jawed leg hold trap" when catching fur-bearing or non-game mammals for commercial or recreational use. It also prohibits the use of two specific poisons... Proposition 6 makes the possession, transfer, or receipt of horses for slaughter for human consumption a felony... Last edited by sugarpop; 03-19-2009 at 06:34 PM.

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Nirvana Back in 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,684	So that people could dump their horses all over the state when they can longer afford to feed them. Thats happening now all over the country because there is really no other recourse. Oh I see you voted in 1998 on the spay and neuter ordinance the City of Los Angeles passed in February 2009, whatever SP __________________ Speaking simply... do not confuse this with having a simple mind.

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