Welfare Letter - Page 2

Sundae · 01-18-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't believe we can, nor should we try. Maybe a better solution is to give them the education and choices required to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It would be a pretty cheap thing to do and much less expensive then having to pay for another welfare baby. Just my thoughts.

I thought you were being sarcastic when I read this. Then I realised it may not be the case in the US. Trust me, it doesn't work. We have the above and there are still people spawning recklessly and damaging another generation born into poverty, ignorance, bad parenting and all round stupid choices.

I suggest 3 year implants for every girl aged 14 unless there is a specific medical case against it. Okay, there are some who will get pregnant the day after it is removed, but at least they've had a chance to get through basic schooling by then.

Clodfobble · 01-18-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

I suggest 3 year implants for every girl aged 14 unless there is a specific medical case against it.

Good luck with that. It would never ever happen here, because it would "encourage" those precious little snowflakes to have sex. We just had a huge hubbub about a new vaccine to prevent cervical cancer--there were actually large numbers of people who did not want the vaccine given to 12-year-old girls specifically because the cause of this particular cancer is an STD, and thus giving it to them was just one more safeguard for their immorality.

Shawnee123 · 01-18-2008, 10:39 AM

So true, Clodfobble. Incredibly sad and stupid and short-sighted (on their part), but true.

classicman · 01-18-2008, 11:08 AM

I third that thought!

Clodfobble · 01-18-2008, 11:10 AM

Fortunately in the end it passed, in Texas anyway. I don't know about other states. What it really came down to in the end is that our governor is more beholden to the pharmaceutical lobby than the religious lobby. Not the best of reasons, but I'm still glad it worked out the way it did.

TheMercenary · 01-18-2008, 11:22 AM

Well I will be saying a bit more than I want to about myself here but here goes any ways...

If you all have not figured it out, I work in the health care sector. Specifically I am a health care provider. That is all I want to say about that. I can tell you that a majority of people scam the system, in my limited experience of 30 years. It is not pretty. There is no easy fix. After a while you fold in on yourself and do the best you can for the people you care for, regardless of their personal situations or ability to pay, and in the end take care of yourself and your family to the best of your ability. Anyone have any experience slamming your head against a brick wall repeatedly? After a while all you get is a head ache, the brick wall only gets bloodied and remains indifferent.

classicman · 01-18-2008, 11:35 AM

wait - please. What passed? I missed it.

Flint · 01-18-2008, 11:46 AM

The "controversial" life-saving cervical cancer vaccine legislation.

BigV · 01-18-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

What worked for you?

Trilby · 01-19-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well I will be saying a bit more than I want to about myself here but here goes any ways...

If you all have not figured it out, I work in the health care sector. Specifically I am a health care provider. That is all I want to say about that. I can tell you that a majority of people scam the system, in my limited experience of 30 years. It is not pretty. There is no easy fix. After a while you fold in on yourself and do the best you can for the people you care for, regardless of their personal situations or ability to pay, and in the end take care of yourself and your family to the best of your ability. Anyone have any experience slamming your head against a brick wall repeatedly? After a while all you get is a head ache, the brick wall only gets bloodied and remains indifferent.

Working in health care destroyed me. Literally. When I quit I felt like I needed to be de-briefed and get PTSD therapy. The more you care the more you're burned.

Cicero · 01-19-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Good luck with that. It would never ever happen here, because it would "encourage" those precious little snowflakes to have sex. We just had a huge hubbub about a new vaccine to prevent cervical cancer--there were actually large numbers of people who did not want the vaccine given to 12-year-old girls specifically because the cause of this particular cancer is an STD, and thus giving it to them was just one more safeguard for their immorality.

Sundae and Clod:
No. It wouldn't work because:People like me would get pissed about mandatory reproductive laws falling on girls (again) and say they have had enough!! I'm tired of women having to be responsible for every goddamned thing. We have always bared the burden for every fucked up social problem there is....screw that suggestion let's toss it. Here's one.

One word:Vasectomies.

K?

When the guy gets married,becomes a certain age, or is certain he wants a baby, and stops sowing his seed all over the field...it can be reversed. Which is the cause of so many welfare babies. Guys are fucking and running, at alarming rates. "dat ain' mi bebby" So before we even think to inconvenience women again lets attack the problem from where it stems.

Who remembers the male "pill"? What in the hell happened to that?!? Where did it go, and why has it not been released?!? This is bullshit...I get so frustrated sometimes....

elSicomoro · 01-19-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

What worked for you?

Damn, V...that was cold.

I'm cut from a different cloth...I've never wanted kids, so I was religious about contraception.

monster · 01-19-2008, 08:04 PM

http://www.ppwp.org/education/progra...inkitover.html

A friend's daughter had one of these from school. They feel it worked...

DanaC · 01-20-2008, 06:33 PM

Well said Cic!

xoxoxoBruce · 01-20-2008, 06:39 PM

OK, then we'll stand on principle, just leave it the way it is, and let teenage girls continue to get pregnant and fuck up their lives

01-18-2008, 11:08 AM	#19
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I third that thought! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-18-2008, 11:22 AM	#21
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Well I will be saying a bit more than I want to about myself here but here goes any ways... If you all have not figured it out, I work in the health care sector. Specifically I am a health care provider. That is all I want to say about that. I can tell you that a majority of people scam the system, in my limited experience of 30 years. It is not pretty. There is no easy fix. After a while you fold in on yourself and do the best you can for the people you care for, regardless of their personal situations or ability to pay, and in the end take care of yourself and your family to the best of your ability. Anyone have any experience slamming your head against a brick wall repeatedly? After a while all you get is a head ache, the brick wall only gets bloodied and remains indifferent. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-18-2008, 11:35 AM	#22
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	wait - please. What passed? I missed it. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-18-2008, 11:46 AM	#23
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	The "controversial" life-saving cervical cancer vaccine legislation. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-19-2008, 08:04 PM	#28
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	http://www.ppwp.org/education/progra...inkitover.html A friend's daughter had one of these from school. They feel it worked... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-18-2008, 10:39 AM	#18
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	So true, Clodfobble. Incredibly sad and stupid and short-sighted (on their part), but true.

01-18-2008, 11:10 AM	#20
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Fortunately in the end it passed, in Texas anyway. I don't know about other states. What it really came down to in the end is that our governor is more beholden to the pharmaceutical lobby than the religious lobby. Not the best of reasons, but I'm still glad it worked out the way it did.

01-20-2008, 06:33 PM	#29
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well said Cic!

01-20-2008, 06:39 PM	#30
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	OK, then we'll stand on principle, just leave it the way it is, and let teenage girls continue to get pregnant and fuck up their lives __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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