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Shawnee123 01-17-2008 01:24 PM

Welfare Letter
 
Dear Guvmint:

This is the best job ever! Alls I gots to do is get pregnant once a year and the money keeps rolling in. Billy Bob only make 5 bucks an hour over washing dishes at the truck stop, but since I been poppin' out these young'uns I get an extra 6000 bucks from our tax return every year. Not to mention the free housing and health care.

Ooops, gotta run...Billy Bob is home on break and wants him a quick somethin'.

Thanks again,

Your ever faithful employee,

Marletta

TheMercenary 01-17-2008 02:13 PM

You must work for a social service or a hospital. :D

Shawnee123 01-17-2008 02:43 PM

lol...something like that. I'm not (as you know) completely oblivious to the plight of the poor...but I see so many renderings of the above fabrication that every now and then I just want to smack someone. ;)

I'm so jaded.

Cicero 01-17-2008 03:15 PM

......................hey look! I'm shutting the hell up.
No mo' commi'ent.
:)

toranokaze 01-17-2008 03:20 PM

If there is someone wanting to help there are 10 who want to take advantaged of him/her.

classicman 01-17-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 425300)
If there is someone wanting to help there are 10 who want to take advantaged of him/her.

If there is someone wanting help there are 10 who are taking advantage of him/her.

TheMercenary 01-17-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 425284)
I'm so jaded.

Funny how many people in the "helping" professions become jaded over the years. I join you.

elSicomoro 01-17-2008 08:28 PM

How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

TheMercenary 01-17-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 425406)
How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

I don't believe we can, nor should we try. Maybe a better solution is to give them the education and choices required to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It would be a pretty cheap thing to do and much less expensive then having to pay for another welfare baby. Just my thoughts.

regular.joe 01-17-2008 08:35 PM

You mean the "you don't deserve to have children" message won't work?

TheMercenary 01-17-2008 08:37 PM

Well we did try a bit of Eugenics in the US before so it might work, but how would you convince the bleeding hearts?

Clodfobble 01-17-2008 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore
How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

Well, the straightforward action would be to take away all incentives that come with having them--no more tax credits, no more welfare...

But there's that pesky also-hurts-the-innocent-kids side to it.

classicman 01-18-2008 07:36 AM

Problem with removing incentives is there are two issues at hand -
1) Those that are having children to live off the welfare system and
2) those who are just poor and ignorant (srsly). Not bein mean.

The first group would try to find some other way to abuse the system and the latter group would suffer terribly because they were/are unwittingly having children. I thought the implants (norplant?) would have some impact on this issue, but then it became a moral issue with preventing them from reproducing... human rights something blah blah blah.

Oh and yeah - don't forget there are kids involved here too - guess the whole adoption thing coulda helped out there, but it doesn't seem to be.

Shawnee123 01-18-2008 07:45 AM

Some young adults get screwed on educational benefits in this country as well, by choosing to work, live on their own, remain single, and not have children yet. Help with school? Hey, you make a whopping 13 grand a year, you don't need funding. Now, if you'd find a way to get yourself a kid...

Education should be accessible, to the poor, but also to the middle. The incentive for many lies in using the system because let's face it, Burger King wages pale in comparison to the other side (unless, of course, you work in Financial Aid...then BK wages start looking pretty good.) :)

I don't know the solution. I have empathy for the poor. I love to see the success stories I see. I believe in helping others. (The tax credits, well sorry, I don't think making a $6000 profit on your tax return is fair to the childless; yes it costs money to raise children but I neither made that choice for them nor got them pregnant, but I watch my total tax liability go to the opposite end of profit every year. Can't I just write my check direct rather than funnelling it through the IRS?)

However, having said that, I see many, many, many (did I say "many"?) people who knowingly, willfully, and without shame, play the system...year after year.

Eh, like I said, I'm a bit jaded. One minute my picture was next to the entry in the dictionary for "liberal" and the next I'm thinking WTF? Jaded, not jaded. Jaded, not jaded.

classicman 01-18-2008 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 425485)
Burger King wages pale in comparison to the other side...

Trust me, McDonalds doesn't pay much more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123
Eh, like I said, I'm a bit jaded. One minute my picture was next to the entry in the dictionary for "liberal" and the next I'm thinking WTF? Jaded, not jaded. Jaded, not jaded.

You've got a lot of company.


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