Welfare Letter

Shawnee123 · 01-17-2008, 01:24 PM

Dear Guvmint:

This is the best job ever! Alls I gots to do is get pregnant once a year and the money keeps rolling in. Billy Bob only make 5 bucks an hour over washing dishes at the truck stop, but since I been poppin' out these young'uns I get an extra 6000 bucks from our tax return every year. Not to mention the free housing and health care.

Ooops, gotta run...Billy Bob is home on break and wants him a quick somethin'.

Thanks again,

Your ever faithful employee,

Marletta

TheMercenary · 01-17-2008, 02:13 PM

You must work for a social service or a hospital.

Shawnee123 · 01-17-2008, 02:43 PM

lol...something like that. I'm not (as you know) completely oblivious to the plight of the poor...but I see so many renderings of the above fabrication that every now and then I just want to smack someone.

I'm so jaded.

Cicero · 01-17-2008, 03:15 PM

......................hey look! I'm shutting the hell up.
No mo' commi'ent.

toranokaze · 01-17-2008, 03:20 PM

If there is someone wanting to help there are 10 who want to take advantaged of him/her.

classicman · 01-17-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze

If there is someone wanting to help there are 10 who want to take advantaged of him/her.

If there is someone wanting help there are 10 who are taking advantage of him/her.

TheMercenary · 01-17-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I'm so jaded.

Funny how many people in the "helping" professions become jaded over the years. I join you.

elSicomoro · 01-17-2008, 08:28 PM

How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

TheMercenary · 01-17-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

I don't believe we can, nor should we try. Maybe a better solution is to give them the education and choices required to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It would be a pretty cheap thing to do and much less expensive then having to pay for another welfare baby. Just my thoughts.

regular.joe · 01-17-2008, 08:35 PM

You mean the "you don't deserve to have children" message won't work?

TheMercenary · 01-17-2008, 08:37 PM

Well we did try a bit of Eugenics in the US before so it might work, but how would you convince the bleeding hearts?

Clodfobble · 01-17-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

Well, the straightforward action would be to take away all incentives that come with having them--no more tax credits, no more welfare...

But there's that pesky also-hurts-the-innocent-kids side to it.

classicman · 01-18-2008, 07:36 AM

Problem with removing incentives is there are two issues at hand -
1) Those that are having children to live off the welfare system and
2) those who are just poor and ignorant (srsly). Not bein mean.

The first group would try to find some other way to abuse the system and the latter group would suffer terribly because they were/are unwittingly having children. I thought the implants (norplant?) would have some impact on this issue, but then it became a moral issue with preventing them from reproducing... human rights something blah blah blah.

Oh and yeah - don't forget there are kids involved here too - guess the whole adoption thing coulda helped out there, but it doesn't seem to be.

Shawnee123 · 01-18-2008, 07:45 AM

Some young adults get screwed on educational benefits in this country as well, by choosing to work, live on their own, remain single, and not have children yet. Help with school? Hey, you make a whopping 13 grand a year, you don't need funding. Now, if you'd find a way to get yourself a kid...

Education should be accessible, to the poor, but also to the middle. The incentive for many lies in using the system because let's face it, Burger King wages pale in comparison to the other side (unless, of course, you work in Financial Aid...then BK wages start looking pretty good.)

I don't know the solution. I have empathy for the poor. I love to see the success stories I see. I believe in helping others. (The tax credits, well sorry, I don't think making a $6000 profit on your tax return is fair to the childless; yes it costs money to raise children but I neither made that choice for them nor got them pregnant, but I watch my total tax liability go to the opposite end of profit every year. Can't I just write my check direct rather than funnelling it through the IRS?)

However, having said that, I see many, many, many (did I say "many"?) people who knowingly, willfully, and without shame, play the system...year after year.

Eh, like I said, I'm a bit jaded. One minute my picture was next to the entry in the dictionary for "liberal" and the next I'm thinking WTF? Jaded, not jaded. Jaded, not jaded.

classicman · 01-18-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Burger King wages pale in comparison to the other side...

Trust me, McDonalds doesn't pay much more.

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Eh, like I said, I'm a bit jaded. One minute my picture was next to the entry in the dictionary for "liberal" and the next I'm thinking WTF? Jaded, not jaded. Jaded, not jaded.

You've got a lot of company.

01-17-2008, 01:24 PM	#1
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Welfare Letter Dear Guvmint: This is the best job ever! Alls I gots to do is get pregnant once a year and the money keeps rolling in. Billy Bob only make 5 bucks an hour over washing dishes at the truck stop, but since I been poppin' out these young'uns I get an extra 6000 bucks from our tax return every year. Not to mention the free housing and health care. Ooops, gotta run...Billy Bob is home on break and wants him a quick somethin'. Thanks again, Your ever faithful employee, Marletta

01-17-2008, 02:13 PM	#2
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	You must work for a social service or a hospital. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-17-2008, 03:15 PM	#4
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	......................hey look! I'm shutting the hell up. No mo' commi'ent. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

01-17-2008, 03:20 PM	#5
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	If there is someone wanting to help there are 10 who want to take advantaged of him/her. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

01-17-2008, 08:35 PM	#10
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	You mean the "you don't deserve to have children" message won't work? __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

01-17-2008, 02:43 PM	#3
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	lol...something like that. I'm not (as you know) completely oblivious to the plight of the poor...but I see so many renderings of the above fabrication that every now and then I just want to smack someone. I'm so jaded.

01-17-2008, 08:28 PM	#8
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

01-17-2008, 08:37 PM	#11
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Well we did try a bit of Eugenics in the US before so it might work, but how would you convince the bleeding hearts? __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-18-2008, 07:36 AM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Problem with removing incentives is there are two issues at hand - 1) Those that are having children to live off the welfare system and 2) those who are just poor and ignorant (srsly). Not bein mean. The first group would try to find some other way to abuse the system and the latter group would suffer terribly because they were/are unwittingly having children. I thought the implants (norplant?) would have some impact on this issue, but then it became a moral issue with preventing them from reproducing... human rights something blah blah blah. Oh and yeah - don't forget there are kids involved here too - guess the whole adoption thing coulda helped out there, but it doesn't seem to be. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-18-2008, 07:45 AM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Some young adults get screwed on educational benefits in this country as well, by choosing to work, live on their own, remain single, and not have children yet. Help with school? Hey, you make a whopping 13 grand a year, you don't need funding. Now, if you'd find a way to get yourself a kid... Education should be accessible, to the poor, but also to the middle. The incentive for many lies in using the system because let's face it, Burger King wages pale in comparison to the other side (unless, of course, you work in Financial Aid...then BK wages start looking pretty good.) I don't know the solution. I have empathy for the poor. I love to see the success stories I see. I believe in helping others. (The tax credits, well sorry, I don't think making a $6000 profit on your tax return is fair to the childless; yes it costs money to raise children but I neither made that choice for them nor got them pregnant, but I watch my total tax liability go to the opposite end of profit every year. Can't I just write my check direct rather than funnelling it through the IRS?) However, having said that, I see many, many, many (did I say "many"?) people who knowingly, willfully, and without shame, play the system...year after year. Eh, like I said, I'm a bit jaded. One minute my picture was next to the entry in the dictionary for "liberal" and the next I'm thinking WTF? Jaded, not jaded. Jaded, not jaded. Last edited by Shawnee123; 01-18-2008 at 07:51 AM.

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