Muslims say: Put Christ back in Christmas

[Kitsune]

Wait...this was an issue? How?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Wait...this was an issue? How?

It certainly has been for the PC police.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It certainly has been for the PC police.

Sounds like its time for the "war on Christmas" to heat up, again.

Let's see some examples, then, of the "PC police" forcing people stifle their merriment. I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe people are scared into this stupidness.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I suggest you call the schools in your area, or any major corporation, and ask them what they plan on doing for Christmas. I'm willing to bet every one will tell you they are having a winter break... or some such euphemism.

@ SD, excellent link.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I suggest you call the schools in your area, or any major corporation, and ask them what they plan on doing for Christmas. I'm willing to bet every one will tell you they are having a winter break... or some such euphemism.

Taxpayer funded public schools not endorsing a religious holiday? This is not a surprise and certainly has nothing to do with people being "afraid" to wish people a Merry Christmas or "offending others". (Hint: public schools are secular.) Private schools, I'm assuming, would have a different answer.

The major corporation I work for has "Christmas Day" marked as an employee holiday this year (as they have for as long as anyone can remember), although that will change in the future -- we will not be given the day off. In its place, all employees will be given an extra floating holiday off to do with as they please. In my work environment in which a very large portion of the company doesn't celebrate Christmas, the change makes excellent business sense. For all the people that feel the need to complain about this, anyway: they'll get over it, their religion doesn't change, they still get the day off, the gifts will open the same, etc, etc.

And, yeah, I've heard all about how [major box store name here] is selling "Holiday Trees" this year or that [other major box store name here] has their employees say "Happy Holidays" to customers. In a population with varied beliefs, making your business appeal to everyone is good for money. What do you think December 25th really, honestly means to major retailers in this country? It's about selling as much crap to as many people as possible and that is no different than even fifty years ago. But selling Christmas decorations to people that don't even celebrate it? Pure business genius. My officemate started buying presents for her kids and putting up lights on her house but has no inkling of what the holiday means to Christians. They do it "because everyone else does" and don't feel any real religious attachment to giving their kids video games or putting a inflatable Santa in their yard.

So, really, the whole "Christmas fear" -- are you or anyone you know afraid to wish people "Merry Christmas" for fear of offending someone? Know anyone that is? I don't and I'm fairly certain the idea is made up to scare all the people that, for some reason, feel the need to have their most sacred beliefs validated by the wording on department store advertisement fliers.

In the end, no one is really being pressured by the "PC police" to keep their religious ideas away from others -- everyone is just as religiously free, in this country, as they ever were. Nothing the media has reported on in this "war" can change that.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Taxpayer funded public schools not endorsing a religious holiday? This is not a surprise and certainly has nothing to do with people being "afraid" to wish people a Merry Christmas or "offending others". (Hint: public schools are secular.) Private schools, I'm assuming, would have a different answer.

They closed for Christmas, they will close for Christmas, but they are not allowed to say so any more. Closing for Christmas is hardly endorsing a religious holiday in the USA... ask your officemate.

The major corporation I work for has "Christmas Day" marked as an employee holiday this year (as they have for as long as anyone can remember),

They are far behind the curve

In my work environment in which a very large portion of the company doesn't celebrate Christmas, the change makes excellent business sense.

Who are they doing business on Christmas Day?

My officemate started buying presents for her kids and putting up lights on her house but has no inkling of what the holiday means to Christians. They do it "because everyone else does" and don't feel any real religious attachment to giving their kids video games or putting a inflatable Santa in their yard.

Exactly, without changing the name.

So, really, the whole "Christmas fear" -- are you or anyone you know afraid to wish people "Merry Christmas" for fear of offending someone? Know anyone that is?

Yes, every manager at work, unless they are particularly good friends with the employee.

In the end, no one is really being pressured by the "PC police" to keep their religious ideas away from others -- everyone is just as religiously free, in this country, as they ever were. Nothing the media has reported on in this "war" can change that.

Not true.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Closing for Christmas is hardly endorsing a religious holiday in the USA... ask your officemate.

Okay, so if it isn't endorsing Christmas, then why are people so offended when they don't call it "Christmas"? What's the big deal?

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Who are they doing business on Christmas Day?

Customers in need of phone support, billing support, service outages, etc. Business doesn't stop on the 25th.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Yes, every manager at work, unless they are particularly good friends with the employee.

Really? Why?

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Not true.

Alright, I'll bite. How has anyone's religious freedom been violated because of The [supposed] War on Christmas?

[slang]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

I'm fairly certain the idea is made up to scare all the people that, for some reason, feel the need to have their most sacred beliefs validated by the wording on department store advertisement fliers.

If that were accurate, it would be truly funny.

It's a tradition that is evaporating because of a handful of people that are consistently and loudly complaining about how it.

I'm not even a church goer but I see these little changes in wording and such that are an attempt to change the traditional holiday.