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Old 02-07-2015, 05:47 PM   #1
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You always have and always will, just like everyone else... but you knew that.
Not in the GOP primaries !
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:09 PM   #2
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:11 AM   #3
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Well, I really do have a dog in the this next fight...

And let it be a warning to all who are in politics and live with their "fiance"...

John Kitzhaber controversy: Oregon attorney general launches criminal investigation

The Oregonian - 1/20/15
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Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum announced Monday that she has opened an investigation
into the allegations of public corruption against Gov. John Kitzhaber and Cylvia Hayes

Rosenblum announced the unprecedented criminal investigation nearly two hours after Kitzhaber
released a letter he sent asking her to open a "full and independent factual review."
Calls for a more rigorous investigation increased, however, after recent questions about
whether Hayes reported $118,000 in payments on tax returns, and after Kitzhaber deflected
questions at a contentious Jan. 30 news conference.
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Former Oregon Attorney General Dave Frohnmayer confirmed Monday that the
attorney general can - and must -- investigate any possible corruption.
"The fact that you represent an agency in its official capacity doesn't preclude you from investigating
individual wrongdoing," Frohnmayer said. "You represent the institution, not the person."


And besides all that:

"I would have thought it better to ask for an investigation by a special prosecutor from outside
the state or outside the political system," said Senate Minority Leader Ted Ferrioli, R-John Day.
"The question is only how does it look to have the Democrats investigating Democrats."
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:23 AM   #4
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You would think that after the Virginia governor was found guilty for the same thing, all the other governors would perk right up and take notice and stop that shit. You can't even have the appearance of impropriety any more.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:32 PM   #5
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You would think that after the Virginia governor was found guilty for the same thing,
all the other governors would perk right up and take notice and stop that shit.
You can't even have the appearance of impropriety any more.
I agree. But I'm betting our Governor will end up in a bed of roses, because legally they are not married.
So he could/would/might not have known or been responsible for her failure to declare her $118k income.

JK has been a good Governor, and he certainly seemed emotionally shaken during the earlier
press conference when he (first ?) learned of her IRS issues.
Also, this woman has already had revelations of 2 other questionable issues in her past.

But you can be sure the Republicans will throw a fit if JK comes out OK, in part because JK has been
a strong supporter of what came to be known as Obamacare.
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:19 AM   #6
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You would think that after the Virginia governor was found guilty for the same thing, all the other governors would perk right up and take notice and stop that shit. You can't even have the appearance of impropriety any more.
Tell it to Cuomo. As governors they suffer from big fish little pond syndrome. They really expect to get away with stuff because they've always gotten away with stuff.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:19 PM   #7
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Local news is reporting Governor Kitzhaber is resigning, effective Feb 18th.
Still nothing specific is being reported.

Next, we play a reverse musical chairs of office holders moving - up(?)

The (local) media is beginning a "self-evaluation" of how they reported these events.

ETA: John Kitzhaber has served 2 separate terms, the first was 1995-2003
During that time, the Coffee Creek Correctional Facility for women was built, and opened in 2001

Wouldn't it be ironic if it turns out that he is the one who built the future home of his "fiance", Cylvia Hayes

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Old 02-14-2015, 09:52 AM   #8
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I'm quite sad about all this.
I believe that my dog in this fight has turned out to be a bitch.

This is the first article I've seen that puts it all in perspective, and I don't disagree with much of anything in it.
But I have sniped out a lot of stuff that has been reported before about Kitzhaber, himself.

For me now, it's another instance of: "He knew, or he should have known..."

Oregon Gov. Kitzhaber + Cylvia Hayes: Political Valentine gone wrong?
Christian Science Monitor - Brad Knickerbocker, - February 14, 2015

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ASHLAND, ORE. — In the end, Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber stood alone in the harsh political spotlight.
In the end, he really had no option but to resign as an ethical scandal involving his fiancée Cylvia Hayes kept growing.

The essence of the scandal is that Ms. Hayes, in her unofficial capacity as first lady,
used her position as an advisor and confidante to the governor
– she had an office at the State Capital in Salem – for financial gain.
The state ethics commission had begun an inquiry, and state Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum,
a fellow-Democrat who had called the allegations against Kitzhaber
“very serious – and troubling,” launched a criminal investigation.
<snip>
Ms. Hayes is alleged to have used her position close to the governor
– they lived together and had been a couple for years –
to land clients for her environmental consulting business.
Emails show Hayes directed state employees how to implement a new policy
while she was being paid $25,000 by an advocacy group to promote it.
It was also reported that Hayes earned $118,000 over two years for a fellowship
with the Clean Economy Development Center, and that the money didn't match the earnings reported on her tax returns.
<snip>
The spotlight on financial issues also led to Hayes’s admitting to have accepted about $5,000 for
illegally marrying a young Ethiopian man seeking immigration benefits in the 1990s,
which she called "the biggest mistake of my life."
Later, she admitted to having purchased a remote property with the intent to grow marijuana.

Hayes was raised in rural poverty in Washington State,
for a time in a home without electricity or running water.
She ran away from home when she was 16, marrying for the first time at 17.
There was a point in her early life when she lived in her car and a tent on public land.
<snip>

Over the years, Oregon does seem to have had a distinctive brand of politics
– relaxed and progressive without being particularly partisan,
a place as comfortable with moderate Republican governors like Mark Hatfield
and Tom McCall as it is with incumbent Democratic US senators Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley.

Ironically, as Reid Wilson pointed out in the Washington Post this week,
Oregon is the least corrupt state in the nation, according to Justice Department data
showing that fewer public officials were convicted in Oregon over the last four decades than in any other state.
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:38 PM   #9
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Well, I really do have a dog in the this next fight...

And let it be a warning to all who are in politics and live with their "fiance"...

John Kitzhaber controversy: Oregon attorney general launches criminal investigation

The Oregonian - 1/20/15
Well, when you're in trouble you find out who are your friends. Today, the dam burst.

Although last night JK told the Press that he was not going to resign,
and the Press has not reported any specifics about possible "criminal activities, ...
almost every elected Democrat in the Oregon Legislature is calling for Kitzhaber to resign.

It has being reported that JK sent out an email telling State employees to delete
his "personal" emails from the State servers, and that the employees have refused to do so.

The Press is loving it, and saying: "It is only a matter of time"

Today is a tempest, maybe in a tea pot or maybe over the entire State of Oregon.

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