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Old 02-07-2015, 02:16 PM   #1
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Well if the University can't turn out graduates who have the skills Koch Industries needs, we shouldn't be using public money to teach them. What good are public institutions if not to serve the ruling class?

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Besides all that: It looks as tho I do have a dog in this fight.
You always have and always will, just like everyone else... but you knew that.
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:47 PM   #2
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You always have and always will, just like everyone else... but you knew that.
Not in the GOP primaries !
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Old 02-07-2015, 07:09 PM   #3
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Sure you do, the outcome affects us all because some are more beatable than others.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:11 AM   #4
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Well, I really do have a dog in the this next fight...

And let it be a warning to all who are in politics and live with their "fiance"...

John Kitzhaber controversy: Oregon attorney general launches criminal investigation

The Oregonian - 1/20/15
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Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum announced Monday that she has opened an investigation
into the allegations of public corruption against Gov. John Kitzhaber and Cylvia Hayes

Rosenblum announced the unprecedented criminal investigation nearly two hours after Kitzhaber
released a letter he sent asking her to open a "full and independent factual review."
Calls for a more rigorous investigation increased, however, after recent questions about
whether Hayes reported $118,000 in payments on tax returns, and after Kitzhaber deflected
questions at a contentious Jan. 30 news conference.
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Former Oregon Attorney General Dave Frohnmayer confirmed Monday that the
attorney general can - and must -- investigate any possible corruption.
"The fact that you represent an agency in its official capacity doesn't preclude you from investigating
individual wrongdoing," Frohnmayer said. "You represent the institution, not the person."


And besides all that:

"I would have thought it better to ask for an investigation by a special prosecutor from outside
the state or outside the political system," said Senate Minority Leader Ted Ferrioli, R-John Day.
"The question is only how does it look to have the Democrats investigating Democrats."
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:23 AM   #5
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You would think that after the Virginia governor was found guilty for the same thing, all the other governors would perk right up and take notice and stop that shit. You can't even have the appearance of impropriety any more.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:32 PM   #6
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You would think that after the Virginia governor was found guilty for the same thing,
all the other governors would perk right up and take notice and stop that shit.
You can't even have the appearance of impropriety any more.
I agree. But I'm betting our Governor will end up in a bed of roses, because legally they are not married.
So he could/would/might not have known or been responsible for her failure to declare her $118k income.

JK has been a good Governor, and he certainly seemed emotionally shaken during the earlier
press conference when he (first ?) learned of her IRS issues.
Also, this woman has already had revelations of 2 other questionable issues in her past.

But you can be sure the Republicans will throw a fit if JK comes out OK, in part because JK has been
a strong supporter of what came to be known as Obamacare.
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:19 AM   #7
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You would think that after the Virginia governor was found guilty for the same thing, all the other governors would perk right up and take notice and stop that shit. You can't even have the appearance of impropriety any more.
Tell it to Cuomo. As governors they suffer from big fish little pond syndrome. They really expect to get away with stuff because they've always gotten away with stuff.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:19 PM   #8
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Local news is reporting Governor Kitzhaber is resigning, effective Feb 18th.
Still nothing specific is being reported.

Next, we play a reverse musical chairs of office holders moving - up(?)

The (local) media is beginning a "self-evaluation" of how they reported these events.

ETA: John Kitzhaber has served 2 separate terms, the first was 1995-2003
During that time, the Coffee Creek Correctional Facility for women was built, and opened in 2001

Wouldn't it be ironic if it turns out that he is the one who built the future home of his "fiance", Cylvia Hayes

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Old 02-12-2015, 06:38 PM   #9
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Well, I really do have a dog in the this next fight...

And let it be a warning to all who are in politics and live with their "fiance"...

John Kitzhaber controversy: Oregon attorney general launches criminal investigation

The Oregonian - 1/20/15
Well, when you're in trouble you find out who are your friends. Today, the dam burst.

Although last night JK told the Press that he was not going to resign,
and the Press has not reported any specifics about possible "criminal activities, ...
almost every elected Democrat in the Oregon Legislature is calling for Kitzhaber to resign.

It has being reported that JK sent out an email telling State employees to delete
his "personal" emails from the State servers, and that the employees have refused to do so.

The Press is loving it, and saying: "It is only a matter of time"

Today is a tempest, maybe in a tea pot or maybe over the entire State of Oregon.

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