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Flint · 08-31-2013, 01:13 AM

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Not likely. While being a transitioning T is a predisposing factor and may pose a risk that warrants access restriction for some, not all of them will become attention whoring traitors. That was a character flaw intrinsic to Manning.

Does nobody know how to read English? Undertoad posted an excerpt demonstrating that the organization knew the individual was mentally unstable--for whatever reason. And he stated that he doesn't care, and that it doesn't matter, what the reason is. The only differentiating factor regarding this person's gender identity is that IF the organization was afraid to place normal restrictions on an individual who was exhibiting unstable behavior--regardless of the alleged reason--then that IS ƒucked up. The entire point is that the reason doesn't matter. The thing where someone ƒucked up is when they did an overcompensating cartwheel right over the edge of a cliff that common sense should have warned them about.

sexobon · 08-31-2013, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

... IF the organization was afraid to place normal restrictions on an individual who was exhibiting unstable behavior--regardless of the alleged reason--then that IS ƒucked up. ...

I don't think anyone is disputing that. The conversation covers both reasons for Manning's behavior and reasons for the Army's behavior. Regarding the latter, Undertoad opined that the Army let a troubled Manning remain in position because it apparently didn't care. Lamplighter said Undertoad's opinion was silly unless Manning's superiors already knew information was being leaked; but, didn't otherwise address the Army's handling of Manning's untoward behavior. I opined that politics forced the Army to accept Manning as is; so, they allowed Manning to remain in position until a serious infraction occurred.

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Originally Posted by Flint

... The entire point is that the reason doesn't matter. ...

The reason for Manning's troubles shouldn't matter. Security clearances are; however, political in nature and that's what makes the reason relevant to discussing the Army's actions.

Flint · 08-31-2013, 11:34 AM

This is unacceptable.
I DEMAND that we disagree about something.

Pistols at dawn on the main promenade.

sexobon · 08-31-2013, 12:18 PM

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Pistols at dawn on the main promenade.

Water pistols, loaded with tequila, taking each other's best shots. Glorious way to start the day!

Our seconds, Infi and Clod, will administer lime juice and salt until only one is left standing.

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