Race Relations

[Shawnee123]

No, uh, I don't no how to think...I stupid and moronick.

Go jack off on your big gun, you big man. You know you want to. Your big gun is what sets you apart from others. We thought it was your big brain, but we were wrong. Thanks for explaining things to me. I'm headed to the gun and knife show because I'm scared of society.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

...Were you as intelligent as I...

Why would I want to cut my IQ in half?

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

...Go jack off on your big gun...

I think he likes long barrels stuck up his ass.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Why would I want to cut my IQ in half?


I think he likes long barrels stuck up his ass.

Your math is in error, Spexx. I'm the antigenocide one here, you are visibly not. Your IQ would rise by fifty to seventy points, were you to shed your hoplophobia.

And your antigun/anti-civil liberties/nanny-state/pro-crime/pro-genocide prejudices show in your second comment, and they besmirch you, leaving upon you an ineradicable odor of death. Growing wrathful against anticrime and antigenocide measures does not bespeak intelligence, but instead, neurosis.

You have no conscious realization of how completely you are shamed by your own words. That doesn't, however, remain hidden from me. You certainly don't qualify to offer me any humiliation, however much you'd like to. I have your measure, and you are not exceeding it. This is what maladjustment does, Spexxvet. Mine is the ascendancy, for as long as I am what I am, and you are what you are.

Turning to some others:

Ali, for several reasons I don't think so. One of them is that the US is a republic, where the source of political power is manifestly the electorate, and that this is that power's proper repository. One aspect of this -- and a grim one to be sure -- is the power of killing. Without the electorate retaining that power, a republic decays into an oligarchy. Not the preferred choice, by a long chalk. A general distribution of killing power keeps power itself on a short leash with a force as relentless as gravity, and to prevent excesses of power, such leashing must never be compromised. We've all seen what happens when it is.

UT: one thing to consider -- as of when do Iraq's houses each have their AKs? During Saddam, or afterwards? I don't know, and I don't think you know either. During Saddam's time, revolts would, I think, have been more successful with an AK in every house, not so? This is why I haven't been much influenced by your example either time you've offered it.

When England had guns all through its society, it also had a crime rate so low that English policemen went about armed about equally with a nightstick and slightly stuffy virtue -- and were effective. It is now widely known that with arms sweep-ups, anyone willing to defy UK gun bans can now oppress hundreds at a stroke, and armed crime is steadily becoming increasingly popular. A highly socially stable place like England would use private arms to about the best possible effect in crime suppression. E.g.: "It isn't done, old fellow, and if you try doing it, we'll bloody well blow you in two." [Goofball Napoleonic reference: But we'll not quarter -- cuttin' ya in twa halves inteet will be enow. (Battle of Quatre Bras)]

Shawnee: you know what? Freud didn't say hardly anything about guns at all. It was something like one sentence in his work on interpreting dreams, mentioned among several other objects including fountain pens and umbrellas, and maybe Zeppelins. The sentence really doesn't bear the kind of interpretations loaded upon it in the decades since.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Your IQ would rise by fifty to seventy points, were you to shed your hoplophobia.

What, wait... love guns and you can be in Mensa?

So wait now, I've done a zillion Mensa test thingies (well it feels like a zillion) and my highest score was 147 (lowest was under 130 -what -you thought they were meaningful?) ...so you're saying if I learned to love the gun i could be the first 200IQ?



you're so full of bull the stink is clearly having a negative effect on your IQ rating

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

UT: one thing to consider -- as of when do Iraq's houses each have their AKs? During Saddam, or afterwards? I don't know, and I don't think you know either. During Saddam's time, revolts would, I think, have been more successful with an AK in every house, not so? This is why I haven't been much influenced by your example either time you've offered it.

It is customary for Iraqi familes to have a rifle. This hasn't changed.

Hundreds of thousands of rifles in private hands didn't cause revolt or prevent a hundred thousand dead in mass graves.

When England had guns all through its society, it also had a crime rate so low that English policemen went about armed about equally with a nightstick and slightly stuffy virtue -- and were effective.

Well, not so effective in Iraq. And not creating a society you'd want to live in. Doesn't that suggest to you that the guns aren't the fulcrum of freedom you think they are?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Doesn't that suggest to you that the guns aren't the fulcrum of freedom you think they are?

That notion was disproved in the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion, when the Federal Government proved it's superiority.

Since the second amendment guaranteed our right to bear arms, and they have been proven not a threat to the government, there is no reason to change that right.