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Poll Results

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For most African-Americans, the election of Barack Obama as president was a dream come true that they didn't think they would see in their lifetime, a national poll released Tuesday suggests.

Eighty percent of African-Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey said that Obama's election was a dream come true, and 71 percent said they never thought a black candidate for president would get elected in their lifetime.

The poll reflects anecdotal evidence that surfaced across the country last week as soon as Obama's projected win was announced.

The poll also suggests a racial divide among people who thought a black candidate would be elected president in their lifetimes. Fifty-nine percent of white respondents said they thought a black president would be elected in their lifetime, but only 29 percent of black respondents agreed.

"A majority of blacks now believe that a solution to the country's racial problems will eventually be found," Holland said. "In every previous poll on this topic dating back to 1993, black respondents had always said that racial problems were a permanent part of the American landscape."

I found this very interesting. I know that racial bias exists, I think it always will, but I wonder how much of it is perceived and how much of it still exists.

The disparity of the views from whites to blacks was troublesome, but one area where the two agreed was on the question "do you think a solution will be worked out - over half of both groups thought a solution would be found. (57% white & 55% blacks)

I remain hopeful.

A solution? A solution to individual perceptions and attitudes?

It's called cultural training. The same technique works for gender and sexual orientation biases. But you knew that already.

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 503401)

It's called cultural training. The same technique works for gender and sexual orientation biases. But you knew that already.

And, of course, for the Red Guard, the Brown Shirts, the Cultural Revolution (China and Iran), the Young Pioneers ... yes, cultural training for ideological purposes has a wonderful history.

Show me where the "organization" is in this cultural training. We're 305,637,930 people living in one country, bumping elbows every day -- surely one becomes tolerant, or one becomes isolationist, paranoid, and extinct.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

A solution? A solution to individual perceptions and attitudes?

The trick to evolution is not that the individual changes; it's that the individual eventually dies.

A "solution", did you say? Ja, ve haff der Final Solution for you!

Is that 'final' like the final round of the Reader's Digest prize draw is 'final'?

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 503401)

It's called cultural training. The same technique works for gender and sexual orientation biases. But you knew that already.

I know, I've had it up to here (points at eyebrow) with "Diversity Training".
Oh, your country/region/culture has this custom and that tradition, well isn't that special.

But... oh yes, there is a but... and the but is, I don't give a hairy rat's ass about your customs or traditions.
I don't care what/who makes you horny.
I don't want to be your pal.
I only want to know when you're going to do your fucking job! :mad2:

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 503756)

I only want to know when you're going to do your fucking job! :mad2:

"By the content of their character..." (or their ability to do their job!)
We are in agreement.

Sensible, Bruce. Sensible.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 503756)

I know, I've had it up to here (points at eyebrow) with "Diversity Training".

Holy shitballs man, you should come hang out in academia for a while. Higher Education has a religion, and its liturgy is "diversity".

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 503756)

God I couldn't agree more. It is mandatory in the military every year for every person. Hello, take a look around you, in many units the white people were the minority. I never understood why they didn't just change it to white peoples training. I am all for diversity, by merit.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 504141)

I never understood why they didn't just change it to white peoples training.

Now Merc, you know that would be a racial term, don't you?

yea, but I never saw much training geared toward evidence of reverse racism either. You couldn't talk about it.