Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[Bitman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

There's no plan that will affect the ability of the wealthy to self-finance their own treatment. But if I'm on a health plan, I'd trust a government bureaucrat over a health insurance company.

I don't understand your point ... You support a plan where only the wealthy can choose their only treatment, while the middle class is stuck with the federal standard treatment? I'd prefer a system where everyone can choose their treatment.

Originally Posted by many people

automotive insurance

This automotive comparison really doesn't work. The government mandates liability insurance, which covers your damage to other people's property. Comprehensive insurance covers damage to your own property, and is totally optional. Health insurance is like comprehensive. And yes, I really believe it should be optional.

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

You are giving $1000+ a year to your car insurance company to pay for someone else's car wreck. You will get no refund when you stop driving, even if you've never had a wreck in your life. How is that not socialism?

No, you're paying $1000/yr for your own wrecks. I pay $350/yr for mine. It might be a kind of socialism, but it's arguable -- only people with cars pay car insurance. Conversely, people who have no children still pay for public schools.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Very true. And that fits the capitalistic model. Volume pricing will always get a better deal than you can get on your own.

No, it's not true at all. Negotiation may be able to get a good deal (depending on the skill and drive of the negotiators) but only competition can get the best price. (And there's no guarantee the government negotiators will be any good.)

And wait, there's another gaping hole in this meme -- Who is this single seller we're having such a hard time getting good prices from?