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Old 06-26-2009, 09:37 AM   #1
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On the contrary most government run single payer(governemnt run) plans DO NOT allow for opt outs or selectively going outside the plan to your own doctor. They control by making it illegal for the Doctor to treat outside the plan sometimes and continue to participate in the plan for the balance of his practice.
First, I don't know about "most", but it is definitely not the case for all single-payer plans.

Second, there is no single payer plan being proposed for the US.
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:59 AM   #2
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First, I don't know about "most", but it is definitely not the case for all single-payer plans.

Second, there is no single payer plan being proposed for the US.
Are doctors who accept medicare allowed to treat medicare participants outside of medicare? NO!. Same in England, Canada, etc. And those are the systems advocates here look to as models of government plans.

In fact, they ARE proposing a single-payer in practice. By artificially creating a lower rate schedule people will opt for lower direct out of pocket and eventually dry up private carriers.

If they thought they could get the votes for an openly stated single-payer plan they would go right for it, because the outcome will not provide lower overall costs-its impossible when the government runs things-they would go right for it. But the words 'single paper' scare people too much so they put it in the details while denying it publicly.
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