Big Brother gets a little bigger

[Aliantha]

I think I should be...

[classicman]

Lets all just wish tw a looong and healthy life

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

Lets all just wish tw a looong and healthy life

I'm virtual. Nothing but a blackout can harm me.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

What if they had your DNA and planted it at the crime scene of a murdered Dweller whom you argued with online?
What recourse would you have?

ORLY? I hadn't heard that one.

In order to do that they would need your blood. That kind of blood has stuff in it that keeps it fresh, so they would be able to test it and they would know it was planted.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Or semen.

If they take your DNA along with your fingerprints on arrest, and if the courts find you innocent, you should be able to expunge your DNA record like your prints.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Or semen.

Yeah, and would it be hard for anyone to believe a male dwellar might leave semen at the scene of a crime?

[tw]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Yeah, and would it be hard for anyone to believe a male dwellar might leave semen at the scene of a crime?

Why are Somalian pirates relevant to Big Brother?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Or semen.

If they take your DNA along with your fingerprints on arrest, and if the courts find you innocent, you should be able to expunge your DNA record like your prints.

or saliva, or hair, or any cell that came from your body.

[Cloud]

I just finished watching that movie, Eagle Eye. This is creeping me out.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

For one thing, if I'm a law abiding citizen, what do I have to worry about?

My concern is that, when something that you're doing, today, that is legal, is made illegal, tomorrow, they already have the framework in place to track you, and you agreed with implementing it. You don't ever get to tear down that process when it dawns on you, later on, that it wasn't a good idea. The politicians of tomorrow can use the tools that the politicians of today put in place, for whatever purpose they see fit at that time. We can't control that from the present. I think that criminalization of harmless acts is part of the natural tendency to try to control a massive, ever-growing population--not through some nefarious scheme, but as a natural, gradual drift towards replacing chaos and disorder with strict, inflexible systems.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Or semen.

If they take your DNA along with your fingerprints on arrest, and if the courts find you innocent, you should be able to expunge your DNA record like your prints.

I imagine there are the same kind of problems with semen collection. I'm not saying it can't be done, but if someone wanted to set someone else up, it wouldn't be the police doing it. Do you know how many people would have to be involved to do that?

I imagine the way they would make a DNA database is not by keeping samples of semen laying around in a vault somehwere, ya know? They probably take a swab from your mouth, and then put the results in a database. I doubt they keep any blood samples or any other kind of samples either.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I imagine there are the same kind of problems with semen collection. I'm not saying it can't be done, but if someone wanted to set someone else up, it wouldn't be the police doing it. Do you know how many people would have to be involved to do that?

I imagine the way they would make a DNA database is not by keeping samples of semen laying around in a vault somehwere, ya know? They probably take a swab from your mouth, and then put the results in a database. I doubt they keep any blood samples or any other kind of samples either.

Sure they keep evidence. That is how a bunch of people (200?) have been freed under that system of looking at people who have been incarcerated for a long time in the system only to be found innocent.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

If someone wanted to set someone else up, it wouldn't be the police doing it. Do you know how many people would have to be involved to do that?

one

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Flint

The politicians of tomorrow can use the tools that the politicians of today put in place, for whatever purpose they see fit at that time. We can't control that from the present. I think that criminalization of harmless acts is part of the natural tendency to try to control a massive, ever-growing population--not through some nefarious scheme, but as a natural, gradual drift towards replacing chaos and disorder with strict, inflexible systems.

Thought that stood repeating.

The DNA database worries me. Far more than CCTV, or people looking into my emails or tracking my mobile phone use (not saying I necessarily approve of all those things, but I don't get a cold chill from them). DNA is about as fundamental and personal as it gets. And I worry at the attitude that seems to be forming within our society that somehow DNA evidence is to be considered absolute and incontrovertable proof. Mainly though, I dont much like the idea of my government owning such deeply personal information about me.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Sure they keep evidence. That is how a bunch of people (200?) have been freed under that system of looking at people who have been incarcerated for a long time in the system only to be found innocent.

They keep evidence. I was actually referring to DNA collection for a DNA database. I doubt they keep that around. Sorry if I wasn't clear.