Obama: "I'm ready to negotiate with you, Iran." Iran: "Fuck you."

[TheMercenary]

Yea, I thought a lot of the speech had not been publicized. But you know when you stand in front of the world and say some pretty stupid stuff as a world leader it is hard to recover from that. Look at Bush.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Yea, I thought a lot of the speech had not been publicized. But you know when you stand in front of the world and say some pretty stupid stuff as a world leader it is hard to recover from that. Look at Bush.

I agree.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Yea, I thought a lot of the speech had not been publicized. But you know when you stand in front of the world and say some pretty stupid stuff as a world leader it is hard to recover from that. Look at Bush.

Better to look at Hugo Chavez. Bush said things that were pretty blunt. Blunt is not the same as stupid. Did bluntness get in the way of consensus? Perhaps so, but it only flaked off what would have been the weak sisters and other myopics insufficiently committed to democracy to see it emerge in places there hadn't been any recently. As you know, I regard such insufficiency with a very jaundiced eye.

Our foreign problems all come from places that don't have democracies running them. And those problems are general; they are not directed solely at America.

What happens if this equation changes and democracies run those places?