Does Anyone feel like Bailing

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

When unions can get companies to pay 80 or 90% of a workers pay after he stops working the unions are no longer useful.

Evidently you didn't read my post explaining that doesn't happen.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Evidently you didn't read my post explaining that doesn't happen.

Really?


http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...A01-351179.htm

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5185887

http://wsjclassroom.com/archive/06ma...2_jobsbank.htm

[xoxoxoBruce]

Oh, ok. I thought you were talking about the sub-pay program.
I agree thats a bad system, I never understood why they bought that in the first place. But shouldn't the union ask for programs to benefit the people that are paying them, remember the company just has to say no.

Boeing has a small version of that, something like 60 or 70 people, that are held to fill in with experienced people if a department is suddenly shorthanded. The difference is when they are not needed to fill in, they are janitors cleaning the bathrooms and offices.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I agree thats a bad system, I never understood why they bought that in the first place.

Because it’s not a bad system if management is responsible. Toyota has the same thing without a union. Toyota is now redirecting employees to fix or modify currently idle assemble plants. Sending employees for retraining. IOW taking advantage of the situation.

IF GM management came from where the works gets done, then GM management would do same. Ironic, that is what some union employees complained to me while I was in a GM plant. The company is so bureaucratic - so out of touch with reality - that is just lets employees sit there - learn nothing - fix nothing - do nothing.

A company with responsible management would be investing in their assets - their employees. But to an accountant, those employees, retraining, or modifying an assembly line are called an expense. Toyota is conducting training programs. GM lets their assets just sit ther doing cross word puzzles.