Does Anyone feel like Bailing

[glatt]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

I wanted Hillary as Pres. I am protesting but it won't be a protest vote, nor a color of the skin vote. It's a look at the facts about whom has done what.

Originally Posted by skysidhe

There is 10% of us who will vote based on who makes their hand shake less when attempting to check their box on Nov.4th.

I simply don't understand positions like yours. In the political spectrum, Hillary is much closer to Obama than to McCain. Did you support Hillary because of her politics, or for some other reason?

Originally Posted by skysidhe

I understand who is to blame and those who did it. I think deregulation is wrong. I always thought so. I can even say, "I told you so" to those who bashed me for bashing Bush' Waay back when but anyway, I didn't like Bush then and I still don't. I still am democratic in my basic philosophy but these parties are so in the pockets of special interests on both sides.l

The republicans are the party that has pushed deregulation, and much of what they have deregulated has turned to piles of stinking poo because greedy robber barons end up thriving and screwing us. The Savings and Loans in the 80s, the the rolling blackouts in California and the fall of Enron, and now the banks.

What about the Savings and Loans debacle in the 80's? McCain was one of the Keating Five who took campaign contributions in exchange for obstructing the investigation into one of the failed Savings and Loans. Do you really want a member of the Keating Five to try to lead us out of this mess?

Obama on the other hand, has no such skeletons in his closet. And he is tapping a lot of the top economic advisers who worked under Bill Clinton. I miss the Clinton years. The economy was very strong then, we had peace, and the government even had a surplus.

Looking at both campaigns this past week, it seems that Obama is better. Neither candidate has much more information that what they read in the paper, so they can't really say what they can do to lead us out of this mess. Obama has basically said that he's in no position to second guess the Fed and Treasury and has kept his mouth shut, and McCain is running around saying he'll fire people, no wait, he'll just see about getting rid of them, he'll appoint a 9/11 commission. He opposes, no wait, he now supports the bailout of AIG and then finally settles down and takes the same position as Obama to just let the Fed and Treasury do their jobs.


As far as the topic of this thread goes, I think we have no choice but to bail out these banks, but I don't like it. I'd like to see some sort of strings attached, like increased regulation. And maybe putting the CEOs in pillories on Wall Street for a day or two so we can all go by and kick them in the ass.

[tw]

Originally Posted by glatt

And maybe putting the CEOs in pillories on Wall Street for a day or two so we can all go by and kick them in the ass.

That means each would be paid about $100,000 per ass kick. That is a solution?

Chance are a member of his entourage will take his place anyway.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by glatt

I simply don't understand positions like yours. In the political spectrum, Hillary is much closer to Obama than to McCain. Did you support Hillary because of her politics, or for some other reason?

I supported her for the issues and I believed she could actually deliver and get something done.

Other than that I don't know. It's a conundrum and I am probably not the best person to dispel a mystery. I can tell you I have done some soul searching for deep seated feminist issues to see if I have a crooked need for a tangerine pantsuit :P


I did like Obama's interview with reporters today. I have been waiting for the debates.I wish we could have had an oportunity to see townhall debates so the remaining fence sitters would know for sure who to vote for. Things could change for me during the debates. We shall see.

I want to see them both off the cuff because these political soundbites, gaffs and talking heads don't tell me anything.

I like the prudence I saw today during the bailout hearings on both political parties.
That's all I know.


TW- Im not ignoring you. It's just that your responses to me are way over what I want to get into. Thanks tho.