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05-04-2008, 04:19 PM
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Slattern of the Swail
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Berkeley?
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In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum |
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05-04-2008, 05:56 PM
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Your Bartender
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I would probably hold my nose and sign it... it's a stupid requirement for a teaching job. It would be interesting to see it litigated. Support? Defend? True Faith? Allegiance? These are all horribly vague concepts. Does voting for any constitutional amendment imply a lack of support for the current Constitution? What if a student states that the consumption of alcohol is detrimental to society as a whole, and that prohibition should never have been repealed? What if a student questions the wisdom of the direct election of US Senators? What form should the teacher's defense of the Constitution take? EDIT: OH SHIT!!! This requirement is in the CA constitution, and I just dissed it!! I suppose I'll be hunted down next time I set foot in CA. |
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05-04-2008, 07:07 PM
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The future is unwritten
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05-04-2008, 07:29 PM
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King Of Wishful Thinking
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If you don't like the oath, don't take a government job. The only people besides government employees and military required to take the oath or something similar are naturalized citizens.
One question is what does Cal State do about employees who aren't US citizens? I still remember discussing the oath with the ROTC captain who wanted to administer it to me (I was not really in ROTC, but that's another story). I was concerned about any conflict between being a US citizen and being a Zionist. He reminded me that the US and Israel have always been allies. This was before the Pollard incident. I took the oath and I believe in it. I do still find it odd when I go our township meeting and everyone has to get up and recite the pledge of allegiance. To me it's something you feel or don't feel and reciting it won't change things. Imagine making every husband in America stand up during public events and recite 'I will not cheat on my wife', as if that will cure infidelity. Do we measure patriotism by how loud and heartfelt the pledge swearers are? Do we give points for wearing a flag pin? Patriotism means standing up for your beliefs in regards to your country, even when those beliefs are unpopular.
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05-04-2008, 07:35 PM
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