There are no illegal immigrants in America

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Food, water, shelter, fuel. Those will be what start an armed revolution, not the desire to perfect the current government. Direct threats to lives have the ability to trigger the fight response in people and you're simply not going to see that in this age of comfort and fortune in the US. No one is going to feel the need to rebel when they're mind knows they're warm, fat, and happy. Only the desperate fight. You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think anyone is going to pick up a gun over this. Do it and you'll be lauded as a nutcase.

Tell you what -- go ahead and take up arms and tell others you're doing it in the name of handing over immigration law to the states in support of the people flooding over the border. I'm sure there will be waves of support right behind you.

So having ourselves spied on, losing habeus corpus, being locked up without charges indefinately by the government for merely being accused of something, having our property stolen from us by the government, having families broken up by government, and having Americans murdered by our government isn't enough to get people to take up arms?

All of these things are already happening.

I guess the only way to get people off the couch is to take away their couch.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Radar

So having ourselves spied on, losing habeus corpus, being locked up without charges indefinately by the government for merely being accused of something, having our property stolen from us by the government, having families broken up by government, and having Americans murdered by our government isn't enough to get people to take up arms?

Take a look outside and see for yourself.

The basic needs of people have to be affected before they'll do anything. None of the above affects these things, therefore no action.