Students walk out during Pledge, recite own version

[Radar]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

The newspaper articles:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7016257
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7016263
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7015611

Hope it catches on and it returns to how the man who wrote it intended and not the nut-jobs during the 50's raped it to be.

While I disagree with their childish version of the pledge, I respect their protest.

We don't have Constitutional rights. Our rights don't come from the Constitution or from government. We are born with our rights and the Constitution was written to put a leash on government in protection of those rights.

While I agree that diversity is one of our greatest strengths, I don't pledge allegiance to diversity. All nations are part of this planet so that part is irrelevant. I wouldn't mind using the phrase "one SOVEREIGN nation..." and lastly adding the word "choice" is also wrong because freedom already includes the freedom of choice so it's repetitive at best.

If it were up to me, I'd return the pledge to the way it was before the McCarthy witch hunts...

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

If I altered it at all, I'd change the word "flag" to "people" and add the word "sovereign" before the word "nation". For grammatical reasons, I'd also change the word "it" to "they" and the word "stands" to "stand".

The completed product would be...

I pledge allegiance to the people of the United States of America, and to the republic for which they stand; one sovereign nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Radar

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I pledge allegiance to the people of the United States of America, and to the republic for which they stand; one sovereign nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Radar, do you believe that states have the right to secede?

[queequeger]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Radar, do you believe that states have the right to secede?

Where did that come from?

And...

Ok, ok, ok. TW does pretty frequently repeat himself near verbatim (as do a few others). I guess I was being more reactionary because I agree with him about, oh, 85% of the time. Maybe he just hasn't gotten so burned out on the whole ridiculousness of our fearless leaders that he still bothers being outraged by it.

I find that every time the GOP or GW specifically takes another step toward total-fucking-insanity, it just makes me tired more than outraged. For a while there, before taking up my apathetic approach, I wouldn't watch the news because I'd get so damned mad. There's only so much outrage one guy can take.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by queequeger

Where did that come from?
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Sorry - "indivisible". Since Radar was fine tuning the pledge, I thought he might remove "indivisible". It seems to me that it would be a better fit with what I interpret to be his philosophy.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Sorry - "indivisible". Since Radar was fine tuning the pledge, I thought he might remove "indivisible". It seems to me that it would be a better fit with what I interpret to be his philosophy.

That's a good point.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Radar, do you believe that states have the right to secede?

Of course I believe it. It's a fact. The sovereign states each joined the union voluntarily, and if the federal government is stepping out of bounds, or treating them unfairly, they can choose to leave the union voluntarily too.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Radar

Of course I believe it. It's a fact. The sovereign states each joined the union voluntarily, and if the federal government is stepping out of bounds, or treating them unfairly, they can choose to leave the union voluntarily too.

I agree.

[lookout123]

didn't they try that once?