Students walk out during Pledge, recite own version

11-10-2007, 01:23 AM

"Under god" specifically states that the US is beneath a god that is being validated by the pledge.
A state you are pledging to that is under something indicates fidelity to that "superior" imaginary being.
There is no point in it being there, it was not in the pledge as written, is against the wishes of the fonding fathers ideal for the formation of this nation and is a reminder of a shameful time in our nation's history.
It has been past time to return to the true national motto and remove these vestiges of paranoia from money, the pledge and all aspects of the state.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-11-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

"Under god" specifically states that the US is beneath a god that is being validated by the pledge.
A state you are pledging to that is under something indicates fidelity to that "superior" imaginary being.

Not even close.

ZenGum · 11-12-2007, 10:23 AM

Let the record show that Dana and Radar have actually agreed on something.

Savor this moment.

I think it is a good pledge too. I always think it's silly to pledge allegiance to a flag. Australia has an occasional fit of debating whether to remove the Union Jack from our flag. How could we do this if we had pledged allegiance to the flag?

Furthermore, I agree with RK about the Under God clause. Bruce's claim that about it "recognizing that the republic is not necessarily the highest power or priority in the individuals life." doesn't cut it with me.
"One nation under God..." explicitly entails that there is a God who is "above" the nation. There's no "not necessarily" about it.

(WTF? Who am I agreeing with all of a sudden? : Checks for alien brain control device : )

11-12-2007, 10:23 AM	#3
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Let the record show that Dana and Radar have actually agreed on something. Savor this moment. I think it is a good pledge too. I always think it's silly to pledge allegiance to a flag. Australia has an occasional fit of debating whether to remove the Union Jack from our flag. How could we do this if we had pledged allegiance to the flag? Furthermore, I agree with RK about the Under God clause. Bruce's claim that about it "recognizing that the republic is not necessarily the highest power or priority in the individuals life." doesn't cut it with me. "One nation under God..." explicitly entails that there is a God who is "above" the nation. There's no "not necessarily" about it. (WTF? Who am I agreeing with all of a sudden? : Checks for alien brain control device : ) __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-10-2007, 01:23 AM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	"Under god" specifically states that the US is beneath a god that is being validated by the pledge. A state you are pledging to that is under something indicates fidelity to that "superior" imaginary being. There is no point in it being there, it was not in the pledge as written, is against the wishes of the fonding fathers ideal for the formation of this nation and is a reminder of a shameful time in our nation's history. It has been past time to return to the true national motto and remove these vestiges of paranoia from money, the pledge and all aspects of the state.

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