Amnesty In America

05-31-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

The only immigration problem we have is due to draconian laws. 1.8 million immigrants needed just for agriculture. Only 29,000 visa permited due to stupid laws.

What did 1770 American do when tax laws were stupid? They openly committed crimes. We call those people "great and patriotic Americans". Why? Because only the laws were to blame. Do we become smart - or be so stupid as to demand enforcement of rediculous laws?

American immigration laws are the problem. Illegal immigrants are simply the symptom of stupid laws that are just as stupid as prohibition. We need them and they need the work. That does not change whether laws make them legal or illegal.

Our laws are easier to navigate and more liberal the most in the world. Draconian? Not by a long-shot.

bluecuracao · 05-31-2007, 06:47 PM

Our immigration laws may or may not be easier than in other countries, but the fact is, they're not working. I think if the laws were actually easier (and less draconian), they would work better.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-31-2007, 09:25 PM

If the laws had been enforced from the git go, they would have been updated as needed, and we wouldn't have this mess. This is what happens when the laws are just ignored and it becomes a free-for-all.

bluecuracao · 06-01-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

If the laws had been enforced from the git go, they would have been updated as needed, and we wouldn't have this mess. This is what happens when the laws are just ignored and it becomes a free-for-all.

They haven't been enforced (completely anyway), because they are unrealistic laws. There aren't, and never will be, adequate resources to enforce laws that try to go too far, just to keep otherwise law-abiding people out of the U.S.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-01-2007, 06:25 PM

I agree. My complaint is, instead of fixing laws that don't work, they just ignored them. Ignoring laws for one's own convenience is habit forming, and a very bad habit at that.

When everybody ignored the laws, they completely lost control of the border. The problem is not just Mexicans, but the people entering through Mexico.

bluecuracao · 06-01-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I agree. My complaint is, instead of fixing laws that don't work, they just ignored them.

Immigration laws have gone through quite a few changes over the years, in attempts to "fix" them, I guess. It seems to me, though, that whenever the Gov't tries to make them more restrictive, they are less effective.

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05-31-2007, 09:25 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If the laws had been enforced from the git go, they would have been updated as needed, and we wouldn't have this mess. This is what happens when the laws are just ignored and it becomes a free-for-all. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-01-2007, 06:25 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I agree. My complaint is, instead of fixing laws that don't work, they just ignored them. Ignoring laws for one's own convenience is habit forming, and a very bad habit at that. When everybody ignored the laws, they completely lost control of the border. The problem is not just Mexicans, but the people entering through Mexico. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-31-2007, 06:47 PM	#2
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Our immigration laws may or may not be easier than in other countries, but the fact is, they're not working. I think if the laws were actually easier (and less draconian), they would work better.

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