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Old 02-08-2007, 08:54 PM   #8
Ronald Cherrycoke
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And that is the damming part we should be taking up with our so called leaders - Democrat and Republican. Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska is calling on our Congressman to start acting like leaders. How many others are doing same?

Take the case of Hilary Clinton - a very competent Senator. But where were her leadership skills? A leader would have voted against the war rather than appease a population seething with veins in their teeth. She did not act like a leader. She acted like a philander panning for votes.

Well, we have many Senators that still don't have the balls to face facts - who instead kowtow to a lying president. Yes, many even on the Democratic side will never be in the next edition of "Profiles in Courage". What is interesting - Obama voted against the war.

Meanwhile, the president went many steps beyond lying. He associated Saddam with bin Laden. He made no effort to get bin Laden. He lied about WMDs even after (for example) a mobile biological weapons lab had been secretly captured and examined. He lied about the aluminum tubes even after Zippe demonstrated six times over why those aluminum tubes could not be for centrifuges. Whereas many in Congress were talking based only in what the White House was saying, the White House was also lying knowing full well that the White House was only lying.

Yes we have a large number of Senators who have much to answer for. And then we have a lesser but large numbers of Senators who fully know the president was lying and still support the scumbag. How many times will these fools work against the people of the United States? Yes, most of them still working against America are currently Republicans. They don't have the balls to even say what all retired presidents have said; what all retired Secretaries of State have said about Condi Rice; don't have the balls to stand up for the Iraq Study Group report; don't have the balls to demand a strategic objective and in exit strategy in Iraq; and appease Americans who hate America and the American soldier.

Sorry. Every sentence in this post is based in facts. If you have emotional problems with any of it, those emotions are yours. The facts are that blunt. We have a leadership problem. And some of our so called leaders are so contemptible as to still promote themselves at the expense of America.

Bottom line: this president was told we were losing "Mission Accomplished" even before Bremer arrive in Iraq in 2003. He was told by Bremer that we were losing. He was told by the military that they needed more troops. This president was such a liar that long after it was known Saddam had no WMDs that, well, in interview with Bob Woodward, it took George Jr 5 minutes and 18 seconds of repeated questions to finally admit this reality. For 5 minutes and 18 seconds, George Jr refused to admit what was a known fact - Saddam had no WMDs.

And so the title of Woodward's book - State of Denial. No way around that reality. This president is even lying to himself. Even his own father was worried about the mistakes he was making in Iraq. That's right. After Gerald Ford died, even Ford's statements were released. Ford was the last of every retired president on the record opposed in some manner to George Jr's "Mission Accomplished". No way around the fact that George Jr has been lying repeatedly. And no way around the fact that about one half of the current Congress remains just as contemptible as to still lie about Iraq.

Worse still – where is the parade of ‘leaders’ asking every week one question: when do we go after bin Laden? Yes we have a severe shortage of leaders in Washingtion. But none lie anywhere near as often and with contempt for the American soldier as George Jr. George Jr first and foremost is worried about his legacy. No person listed in this post lied more than the champion of lies – George Jr – who will not make any effort to go after bin Laden. That alone should be considered an impeachable crime. There is no way an honest man can have anything but contempt for the scumbag president. So contemptible because American troops are dying only for his legacy AND because George Jr all but protects bin Laden.


Take the case of Hilary Clinton - a very competent Senator. But where were her leadership skills? A leader would have voted against the war rather than appease a population seething with veins in their teeth. She did not act like a leader. She acted like a philander panning for votes.

Our population was seething with veins in their teeth against the war in 2002...news to me.

lying president.

Prove that he lied...


Obama voted against the war.



Big deal...so did a lot others.......




Meanwhile, the president went many steps beyond lying. He associated Saddam with bin Laden. He made no effort to get bin Laden. He lied about WMDs even after (for example) a mobile biological weapons lab had been secretly captured and examined. He lied about the aluminum tubes even after Zippe demonstrated six times over why those aluminum tubes could not be for centrifuges. Whereas many in Congress were talking based only in what the White House was saying, the White House was also lying knowing full well that the White House was only lying.


Not true...he got the same intel just like Tony Blair got it from MI6....



George Jr – who will not make any effort to go after bin Laden. That alone should be considered an impeachable crime.



Hell...we couldn`t even find the Uni-Bomber for decades...and he lived in the U.S.....Haaaaaa....Haaaaaa...
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