If Bush lied...so did they!

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Ronald Cherrycoke

"Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It�s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York."

Wow, that's some spin. a) Moore shouldn't have taken it out of context. For one thing, it's such a damningly stupid statement in it's entirety by in effect stating that we are safest by bombing and invading any country that hates us.

b) Condi's statement isn't the most important one on the issue. Bush was the one pushing the the Iraq - 9/11 connection and later Cheney, who beat the dead horse long after such a link was discredited.

Of course Condi's 'first strike on hatred' theory would justify any number of actions, even those by our enemies who feel that we hate them. Was she Secretary of State when she said this? It's bad enough from a Natl Security Advisor. From a Secretary of State it's ludicrous.

[Ronald Cherrycoke]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Wow, that's some spin. a) Moore shouldn't have taken it out of context. For one thing, it's such a damningly stupid statement in it's entirety by in effect stating that we are safest by bombing and invading any country that hates us.

b) Condi's statement isn't the most important one on the issue. Bush was the one pushing the the Iraq - 9/11 connection and later Cheney, who beat the dead horse long after such a link was discredited.

8 September, 2003, 02:03 GMT 03:03 UK

Bush rejects Saddam 9/11 link



Bush delivers his State of the Union address in January 2003
Bush maintains Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda are connected

US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks.

The comments - among his most explicit so far on the issue - come after a recent opinion poll found that nearly 70% of Americans believed the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks.

Mr Bush did however repeat his belief that the former Iraqi president had ties to al-Qaeda - the group widely regarded as responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington.





"We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation.


As recently as last Sunday, Vice-President Dick Cheney, refused to rule out a link between Iraq and 11 September, saying "'we don't know".

"We will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who've had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."

Jordanian link

On Wednesday, Mr Bush said Mr Cheney was right about suspicions of a link between Iraq and al-Qaeda, citing the case of Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a leader of an Islamic group in northern Iraq called Ansar al-Islam believed to have links to al-Qaeda.

The US believes Mr Zarqawi received medical treatment in Baghdad and helped to orchestrate the assassination of a US diplomat in Jordan.

And Mr Bush denied there had been any attempt by his administration to try to confuse people about links between Saddam Hussein and 11 September.

"What the vice-president said was is that he [Saddam] has been involved with al-Qaeda.

"And Zarqawi, an al-Qaeda operative, was in Baghdad. He's the guy that ordered the killing of a US diplomat... There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al-Qaeda ties."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm

[Ronald Cherrycoke]

From another forum...



Lets see if I got this right. Al queda was in Iran, Afghanastan, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Yugoslavia, India, Malaysia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, Sudan but they were not in Iraq. That Saddam was quite a swell guy being able to keep those bad guys out.


Haaaaaa...haaaaaa...

[Ronald Cherrycoke]

The Republican Chairman and Democratic Vice Chairman of the 9-11 Commission on Thursday rejected the media’s widespread reporting that the commission’s report issued the day before had directly contradicted Bush administration statements about connections between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.


http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberal...20040618.asp#1




Lee Hamilton, “I must say I have trouble understanding the flap over this. The Vice President is saying, I think, that there were connections between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's government. We don't disagree with that.”

[tw]

Originally Posted by Ronald Cherrycoke

Lets see if I got this right. Al queda was in Iran, Afghanastan, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Yugoslavia, India, Malaysia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, Sudan but they were not in Iraq.

Ronald Cherrycoke promotes another George Jr lie. Obviously he has no idea about Muslim Brotherhood. If a president tells him Al Qaeda is in Iraq, then Ronald says, "Yes sir". Same president could not even name countries on Israel's border. But Ronald trusts this president.

If I want to sell more stones, I call them diamonds. It's called counterfeiting, Ronald. You are suppose to have enough grasp to understand the difference between a tiny Al Qaeda verses an Iraqi insurgency created (and maybe financed) by America. Oh. I forgot. Ronald only repeats what his idol tells him to. That Iraq insurgency has always been Al Qaeda out to kill us in our beds. Al Qaeda is all everywhere threatening to destroy the world. Maybe we should hire the Power Rangers to protect us? Ronald: Power Rangers ... fiction. Get it?

This Al Qaeda you promote only exists where fear promotes the glory and legacy of a mental midget. Those with basic knowledge knew this Al Qaeda you promote never existed except to promote more Orange Alerts. Ronald - you do remember all those terrorist attacks averted by Orange alerts? Oh. That's right. I forgot. This president does not lie.

[Ronald Cherrycoke]

Originally Posted by tw

Ronald Cherrycoke promotes another George Jr lie. Obviously he has no idea about Muslim Brotherhood. If a president tells him Al Qaeda is in Iraq, then Ronald says, "Yes sir". Same president could not even name countries on Israel's border. But Ronald trusts this president.

If I want to sell more stones, I call them diamonds. It's called counterfeiting, Ronald. You are suppose to have enough grasp to understand the difference between a tiny Al Qaeda verses an Iraqi insurgency created (and maybe financed) by America. Oh. I forgot. Ronald only repeats what his idol tells him to. That Iraq insurgency has always been Al Qaeda out to kill us in our beds. Al Qaeda is all everywhere threatening to destroy the world. Maybe we should hire the Power Rangers to protect us? Ronald: Power Rangers ... fiction. Get it?

This Al Qaeda you promote only exists where fear promotes the glory and legacy of a mental midget. Those with basic knowledge knew this Al Qaeda you promote never existed except to promote more Orange Alerts. Ronald - you do remember all those terrorist attacks averted by Orange alerts? Oh. That's right. I forgot. This president does not lie.

Read? I only know how to write


Your tag sums up your mental midgetness...you should do more reading...if you can!