American Hip Hop

[Bullitt]

I just wonder how some members of the black community went from this


to this

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

I just wonder how some members of the black community went from this

to this

I don't think that's the same person.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I don't think that's the same person.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I don't think that's the same person.

Of course it is not the same person. The point was that who do you think is idolized more often these days? Don't get me wrong I enjoy Eminem (and not because he's white).

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

Of course it is not the same person. The point was that who do you think is idolized more often these days? Don't get me wrong I enjoy Eminem (and not because he's white).

Because white people's image in heavy metal is more respectable? That deranged music...just supposed to pump you up, right?

Everyone has been exploiting women since the the age of time, this foolish image you posted means nothing toward "hedonistic black culture" because honestly we all objectify women, and we all WILL CONTINUE to do it, not because it's right but because it's BUSINESS.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I knew the hate would come.... clearly that's the most ignorant comment anyone could say.

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Then you should listen to [snip] Ludacris (wait wait, listen to his song Runaway Love then stfu)

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Because white people's image in heavy metal is more respectable? That deranged music...just supposed to pump you up, right?

Everyone has been exploiting women since the the age of time, this foolish image you posted means nothing toward "hedonistic black culture" because honestly we all objectify women, and we all WILL CONTINUE to do it, not because it's right but because it's BUSINESS.

I knew the hate would come.... People should give the music you like a chance, but also accept you telling them to shut the fuck up, heavy metal is deranged and all men objectify women - hey, it's okay, it's business.

Meh - it's not a genre I'm interested in so I'll stfu and go & be objectified somewhere else.

[Flint]

Although this may be a bit reductionist, coming from a perspective of music as art, but in one sense it is perfectly natural that anyone who actually plays a musical instrument would expect the definition of music to consist of more than button-pushing and braggadacio. I'll just throw that out there. On the other hand, electronic forms of music can be thought of as a sonic sculpture, using different tools as a means of expression. Then, you have to wonder: what is being expressed? That comes down to a matter of taste. Some people might say Prog Rock expresses nothing more than "Hey, listen to us, we're playing in three different time signatures simultaneously" . . . Of course I wouldn't say that because I believe that music actually contains musicians displaying musicianship. Which is, of course, completely subjective.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

I knew the hate would come.... People should give the music you like a chance, but also accept you telling them to shut the fuck up, heavy metal is deranged and all men objectify women - hey, it's okay, it's business.

Meh - it's not a genre I'm interested in so I'll stfu and go & be objectified somewhere else.

I think you've mistaken me. The "stfu" was to the people who were about to say "Ludacris, social rapper?" because he does do social rap but they haven't listened to him enough to find it.

And yes, I think metal is deranged, just like Ibram calls rap shit. Eye for an eye.

And what I was saying about women is it's not just black media that objectifies women--every culture on earth has exploited them from the beginning. Need I mention Playboy? And the business part is that yes-it makes money, the objectifying of women does make money, therefore it will keep on happening.