oh! youre a feminist? how cute!

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Phil

its fair to assume that there are women who could do those jobs as well as men, but dont get the chance or have to work much harder at getting there

Oh bullshit. I know lots of women who are succeeding in the business world just fine. Yes, there are women out there who are capable of doing the high-powered jobs who are not doing them, just like there are additional men who could be successful in that realm if they wanted to be--but they aren't because they don't want to be working in those jobs.

Griff, for example, is a very intelligent, level-headed man with a strong air of quiet leadership, but he instead chooses to work with autistic children. Clearly he is being held back.

I was told throughout my educational years that I was refusing to live up to my potential, and instead of going to medical school I thought it would be much more fun to have a job making videogames and then drop out of career-land and have a whole slew of children. Obviously I just wasn't given the chance to get my MBA.

To assume that if they aren't there it must be because they're being held-back is condescending, and projects your values on everyone else. Which is ironic, since I'm sure if asked, you would say there is of course far more to life than being a high-powered business executive. But if other people decide the same, "it's fair to assume" they must be oppressed. Maybe women are just a lot smarter in general, and that's why they avoid the executive rat race.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Oh bullshit. I know lots of women who are succeeding in the business world just fine. Yes, there are women out there who are capable of doing the high-powered jobs who are not doing them, just like there are additional men who could be successful in that realm if they wanted to be--but they aren't because they don't want to be working in those jobs.

Griff, for example, is a very intelligent, level-headed man with a strong air of quiet leadership, but he instead chooses to work with autistic children. Clearly he is being held back.

I was told throughout my educational years that I was refusing to live up to my potential, and instead of going to medical school I thought it would be much more fun to have a job making videogames and then drop out of career-land and have a whole slew of children. Obviously I just wasn't given the chance to get my MBA.

To assume that if they aren't there it must be because they're being held-back is condescending, and projects your values on everyone else. Which is ironic, since I'm sure if asked, you would say there is of course far more to life than being a high-powered business executive. But if other people decide the same, "it's fair to assume" they must be oppressed. Maybe women are just a lot smarter in general, and that's why they avoid the executive rat race.

now thats what i call wishful thinking.
it is a fact that women ARE held back by the old boy network, the private mens' clubs, the businessMENS associations, etc., so dotn you fuckin dare call me condescending. I spent 8 years working for the rights of Prostitiute women and I've witnessed first hand the prejudices women face when trying to get a foot on the ladder. and if you bothered to read my previous posts, you would realise that I believe in a CHOICE for men and women: stay at home and play home-maker if thats what you want, anyhting else is oppression / suppression.


http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1983369,00.html
http://education.guardian.co.uk/gend...172256,00.html

you just sit there in your kitchen thinking about what food to prepare for the evening .... and little kittens playing with balls of wool, as a woman should.

[student poop]

I said WHATS A F**KING FEMINIST???

[Phil]

Originally Posted by student poop

I said WHATS A F**KING FEMINIST???

Belonging to movements and ideas which advocate the rights of women to have equal opportunities to those possessed by men.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by student poop

I said WHATS A F**KING FEMINIST???

Right now I'd define it as "someone who is telling you to shut the fuck up, get out a dictionary, and try not to be such an ass the next time you come around here." Idgit. Sheesh, from what hills did you roll out?