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					Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla  UT:  one thing to consider -- as of when do Iraq's houses each have their AKs?  During Saddam, or afterwards? I don't know, and I don't think you know either. During Saddam's time, revolts would, I think, have been more successful with an AK in every house, not so?    This is why I haven't been much influenced by your example either time you've offered it. | 
	
 It is customary for Iraqi familes to have a rifle.  This hasn't changed.
Hundreds of thousands of rifles in private hands didn't cause revolt or prevent a hundred thousand dead in mass graves.
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		| When England had guns all through its society, it also had a crime rate so low that English policemen went about armed about equally with a nightstick and slightly stuffy virtue -- and were effective. | 
	
 Well, not so effective in Iraq.  And not creating a society you'd want to live in.  Doesn't that suggest to you that the guns aren't the fulcrum of freedom you think they are?