The impending Veto

[tw]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Ah...I remember back in the day when the US had goodwill with most of the world...it seems so long ago...

Governments are now unstable where association to George Jr is accused. Yushenko's government in Ukraine is under attack, in part, due to connections to and support from George Jr.

From The Economist of 28 April 2007:
Ayman Nour, runner-up to Hosni Mubarak in Egypt's last presidental election (in 2005), in prison under trumped-up charges - just to show it can fend off American scolding.

Islamic fundamentalism is growing rapidly in all Arab nations due to a crusade mentality created by George Jr, Cheney, and the other wacko extremists.

Even Turkey, once one of America's strongest supporters throughout the world, is rapidly promoting Islamic fundamentalism. Hate even for what America did to Turkish soldiers and shown in a highest grossing movie in Turkey:
Valley of the Wolves Iraq

Islamic fundamentalism and a new contempt for secularism is how young Muslims now openly advocate their distaste for George Jr's religious crusade against them. Even in Syria, a budding human-rights movement has been quashed with a five year prison sentence for that nation's best known human rights advocate.

It does not stop there. America is now increasingly unpopular in most South American nations. Curious. That also happened when Nixon was a Vice President on a trip to South America.

In Somalia, an insurgency mostly composed of the Hawiye people and other nationalists has been rebranded by an extremist American government as Al Qaeda. Again, The Economist

There may be a few hundred jihadist fighter and perhaps a dozen or so who can properly be classified as al-Qaeda. But the government's failure to make concessions to the Hawiye raises al-Qaeda's hope that Somalia may become a hub of instability and a new front in a holy war against Ethiopia- and the west. ... Ferocious fighting between clans has broken out in Kismayo, a southern post.

Get what you wish for. An Islamic government rebranded by our extremist government as Al Qaeda; then Al Qaeda will easily find recruits again evil Americans.

The world's sixth largest oil exporter in the world - Africa's biggest nation by population - is even becoming unglued as corruption has clearly perverted presidential elections. Those who live and profit by such corruption are considered America's friends since America so condones and participates in the corruption at the highest levels of government. In southern Nigeria, distinguishing between government, gangsters, and insurgents is said to be almost impossible because lawlessness and violence is most often in the oil rich areas. Where are which foreigners?

Nations where Americans were once so welcomed are now even becoming dangerous for Americans. There is only one reason why democracy, once so popular during and after Clinton, is now suffering setbacks. Why would anyone in the world do what George Jr advocates? The man only promotes opposition to democratic principles based upon his 'Crusade' mentality. Democratic reforms in Iran are being rolled back. Democracy in Iraq is failing as Maliki is losing support.

It’s not just America that is becoming less popular. Now the principles that America advocates are also becoming unpopular - in some places despised.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by tw

Even Turkey, once one of America's strongest supporters throughout the world, is rapidly promoting Islamic fundamentalism. Hate even for what America did to Turkish soldiers and shown in a highest grossing movie in Turkey:
Valley of the Wolves Iraq

1) You missed the not one but two separate million+ Turk marches against fundamentalism that took place over the last three weeks, one in Ankara, one in Istanbul.

The peaceful rally delivered many messages to the Islamist leaders of AKP, such as "Turkey is laic [secular] and will stay laic"; "NO Mullahs, no imams and no Gul in Cankaya"; "Cankaya is closed to Shari'a"; "We are all Mustafa Kemal's soldiers"; "Come Tayyip[Erdogan] and see us - come and count us".

2) That film is fictional, asshole!

It’s not just America that is becoming less popular. Now the principles that America advocates are also becoming unpopular - in some places despised.

Let them take up unproductive ways, such as nationalizing every critical industry in the country. That way they can fail on their own.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

2) That film is fictional, asshole!

That film is based on real world events as reported by numerous news services. 'Asshole'? UT - you are the one who complained about a Cellar attitude change. You demonstrate why that attitude has changed. Your proof that the world loves everything America is childish insults?

UT, on this topic, tw is 100% correct making UT the 'asshole'. Why? Because UT posted personal insults in conjunction with his wayward claims. You of all people should not be doing what xoxoxoBruce does. You should be acting as the adult you want everyone else to become. That Turkish movie - about what Americans did - was accurately characterized by tw. It demonstrates how much George Jr has destroyed a respect that took generations to build. Accurately noted in that movie is how unpopular things American have become because of George Jr wacko extremism.

Yes there were Turk demonstrations against fundamentalism. That was never new. Once, no large fundamentalism movement existed in Turkey. Even in the most secular Muslim nation - Turkey - fundamentalism is now popular, in part, because Americans want to save the world using 'big dice' agendas. That was the point.

Did you notice that the new Turk president may be a fundamentalist? Islamic fundamentalism now popular even in Turkey because of American (George Jr) contempt for the world.

Somewhere in the back of my mind, it was the American 173 regiment from Italy that abused those Turkish soldiers as demonstrated in the movie. So why do you post like Urbane Guerrilla or xoxoxoBruce? Why do you now post like a child adult? Why do you even deny reality?

The US has made American style democracy so unpopular that even Venezuelans would condone nationalizing banks. You blame the sudden unpopularity of things American on Venezuela? There is only one reason why so many nations are rejecting things that feel too American. George Jr, his boss Cheney, and the new 'big dic' solutions to everything in the world - also called pre-emption. Why, UT, do you have a problem with this reality? And why do you want to turn the Cellar into a cesspool of Urbane Guerrilla profanities?

The movie Valley of the Wolves Iraq would only exist and be so popular in Turkey (once an American closest ally) only because of pre-emption by George Jr. America is losing friends everywhere. UT would deny it - and with profanity?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

That film is based on real world events as reported by numerous news services.

Since you insist on dragging me into this with your childish whining;
What real world events?
What does based on mean?
If the name of the country is the same it can be called, "based on". But you know that's a, "clear as mud but covers the ground", statement.
How are you lie this FICTIONAL movie into real history? Because if you don't, everything you predicated on it becomes bullshit, too.
Feet of clay, tw, feet of clay dissolving.