Mouse

xoxoxoBruce • Oct 18, 2016 2:03 am
My mouse was worn out, the left button would double click on it's own occasionally, the center wheel only worked in one direction, and the right button had to be pressed sideways to work. But the thought of crawling through the dust bunnies and toe jam made me put up with it, even though I had several spare mice.

Saturday afternoon the PC wouldn't come up, it would get part way and stop. I figured out it must be the mouse but it wasn't. The Waber strip my brother gave me a couple years ago had failed. It was from Staples and when whatever was plugged into the master outlet was turned off, it would turn all the other outlets off. That was very convenient to have the monitor, speakers, scanner, etc, power down when the PC turned off. I think I'll get another one.

Anyway, a fully functional mouse is glorious, I now realize what a pain in the ass it was.
Beest • Oct 18, 2016 8:51 am
xoxoxoBruce;971410 wrote:
. It was from Staples and when whatever was plugged into the master outlet was turned off, it would turn all the other outlets off.


I bought a UPS a couple of years ago with this, I was amused to find the other sockets are not referred to with the S word, but simply as 'controlled by Master'.
glatt • Oct 18, 2016 8:53 am
You used "Warber strip" to avoid summoning you know who.
BigV • Oct 18, 2016 11:03 pm
twoldemort?
Griff • Oct 19, 2016 7:21 am
glatt;971423 wrote:
You used "Warber strip" to avoid summoning you know who.


he is wise
Gravdigr • Oct 19, 2016 2:21 pm
Careful, you're gonna talk him up...:worried:
John Sellers • Oct 19, 2016 2:31 pm
xoxoxoBruce;971410 wrote:
That was very convenient to have the monitor, speakers, scanner, etc, power down when the PC turned off.


So, you just switch off your power strip without shutting down Windows first? You're not supposed to do that, ya know. You could end up with data corruption.
tw • Oct 19, 2016 2:47 pm
John Sellers;971517 wrote:
So, you just switch off your power strip without shutting down Windows first? You're not supposed to do that, ya know. You could end up with data corruption.

That defective existed in obsolete technology DOS and Windows based systems. That defect was one of so many eliminated when NT made Windows 95 obsolete in the early 1990s.

Any data corruption or hardware damage from an unexpected blackout implies defective and totally improperly designed hardware.

Many assume unexpected power loss can damage a disk drive or its data. When does a disk drive first learn about power loss? When 5 or 12 volts start dropping to zero. All disk drives see a normal shutdown or unexpected township wide power loss as same. Data loss only occurred with and because of an obsolete file systems such as FAT.
Gravdigr • Oct 19, 2016 2:51 pm
What did I just say?:eyebrow:
Gravdigr • Oct 19, 2016 2:52 pm
:lol2:
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2016 2:52 pm
John Sellers;971517 wrote:
So, you just switch off your power strip without shutting down Windows first? You're not supposed to do that, ya know. You could end up with data corruption.
No, I never switch off the power strip. With the one I had, when the PC was shut down, the power strip would turn off the rest of the outlets.
John Sellers • Oct 19, 2016 5:31 pm
tw;971525 wrote:
That defective existed in obsolete technology DOS and Windows based systems. That defect was one of so many eliminated when NT made Windows 95 obsolete in the early 1990s.

Any data corruption or hardware damage from an unexpected blackout implies defective and totally improperly designed hardware.

Many assume unexpected power loss can damage a disk drive or its data. When does a disk drive first learn about power loss? When 5 or 12 volts start dropping to zero. All disk drives see a normal shutdown or unexpected township wide power loss as same. Data loss only occurred with and because of an obsolete file systems such as FAT.



Rly? It's always a good idea to let Windows go thru the shutdown process B4 switching off the PC, even in Windows 10, so it can properly close all programs running in the background, and stop the HDD. Beginning with Windows XP, Microsoft included the option to have Windows start the shutdown process simply by pressing your PC's power button.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2016 5:35 pm
No power button, click on shut down and let it do it's thing. When it shuts down the magic strip kills power to the peripherals.
John Sellers • Oct 19, 2016 5:39 pm
xoxoxoBruce;971529 wrote:
No, I never switch off the power strip. With the one I had, when the PC was shut down, the power strip would turn off the rest of the outlets.


Ok. :)
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2016 5:48 pm
After all, I wouldn't risk corrupting my porn files. ;)
John Sellers • Oct 19, 2016 6:10 pm
xoxoxoBruce;971539 wrote:
No power button, click on shut down and let it do it's thing. When it shuts down the magic strip kills power to the peripherals.


So, lemme get this right. You click "Shutdown", your PC shuts down Windows and turns off the PC, which also shuts off your peripherals, which seem to be electrically powered, not PC powered. I've never seen a power strip that does that. The only way to turn off all my peripherals at once is to press the master switch on my power center, except for my desktop speakers, which are fully PC powered.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2016 6:20 pm
You are correct, this one came from Staples, but I understand there are others out these. It's a wonderful convenience.
I also bought a bunch of 8" long extension cords so all those funny shaped voltage converters and shit could plug into one strip.
tw • Oct 19, 2016 9:46 pm
John Sellers;971543 wrote:
You click "Shutdown", your PC shuts down Windows and turns off the PC, which also shuts off your peripherals, which seem to be electrically powered, not PC powered. I've never seen a power strip that does that.

Just saw one in Walmart on clearance sale for $34.
Happy Monkey • Oct 20, 2016 12:55 pm
I had one, but it didn't really work. I wonder if my PC was so much of a power leech that the strip didn't reliably recognize it as "off".

Or maybe it was just defective.
tw • Oct 20, 2016 1:50 pm
Happy Monkey;971617 wrote:
I wonder if my PC was so much of a power leech that the strip didn't reliably recognize it as "off".

A power controller in a PC is always on. If that power strip detects as little as 5 milliamps, then it would not power off other receptacles.

Replace a computer connection with a 7 watt and later with a 100 watt incandescent bulb (not LED or CFL). To discover what that power strip sees as power on and power off.