Firefox 4

Pete Zicato • Mar 23, 2011 10:46 am
I've been switching back and forth between Chrome and Firefox depending on who's faster at the moment (mostly).

I like the speed of Chrome, but I don't like the limited preferences and the lack of a regular menu bar.

Firefox 4 has bookmark sharing and is close enough in speed to Chrome to warrant changing back to Firefox.
Pico and ME • Mar 23, 2011 10:55 am
Does chrome have a spellcheck feature?
Pete Zicato • Mar 23, 2011 11:35 am
Both do.
footfootfoot • Mar 23, 2011 11:37 am
Pete Zicato;718125 wrote:
I've been switching back and forth between Chrome and Firefox depending on who's faster at the moment (mostly).

I like the speed of Chrome, but I don't like the limited preferences and the lack of a regular menu bar.

Firefox 4 has bookmark sharing and is close enough in speed to Chrome to warrant changing back to Firefox.


I like the drop down menu of email addys that firefox has, chrome makes me select all and type in the start of the address I want.

Firefox, otoh, keeps crashing whenever flash or java starts. I've dowloaded and installed all the updates. pos.
Flint • Mar 23, 2011 2:05 pm
I don't understand the appeal of browser "speed." I thought that ubiquitous high-speed internet had solved the problem of ever having to wait for anything to load. What exactly is bowser "speed" in a tangible sense? How is it visibly manifested?
Pete Zicato • Mar 23, 2011 2:26 pm
Two things.

Browser start up time. In the past, Firefox was considerably slower from double clicking the icon to being ready to use than Chrome. Much less difference now.

Raw pipe speed is only part of the story. Once you have all that html on your machine, you've got to parse it and render it. (Can be recursive, of course, if there are references in the html to other documents) All that takes time. Firefox used to not be as good at it as Chrome. Again, much less so now.
Undertoad • Mar 23, 2011 2:29 pm
Not so much in how fast words and images are displayed, but how fast Javascript is executed, how quickly Flash and Java are handled, that sort of thing. For AJAXy web pages like ESPN where there are all sorts of dynamically-generated menus dropping down and ads playing while at the same time Flash video is playing, and there are wildly different mouseovers for every link on the page.

But mostly how it loads in 2 seconds instead of 10 seconds when you start it. Firefox 4 has caught up in that regard, it now loads in 3.5 seconds.
Undertoad • Mar 23, 2011 2:30 pm
There ya go. It takes Pete less formatting time and fewer sentences to render the same opinion. Pete is Chrome 10 and I am FF 3.6.
Flint • Mar 23, 2011 2:38 pm
I never would have figured startup time, as IE simply pops open and there it is.
HungLikeJesus • Mar 23, 2011 2:53 pm
One feature of FF4 that I just found is Panorama:

Panorama is a new feature that allows you to group and organize your tabs by task. In addition, it offers beautiful eye candy and an attractive interface.
http://www.techairlines.com/2010/08/26/firefox-panorama-tab-management/

I use it to keep separate tabs for research, news and reviews.
Pete Zicato • Mar 23, 2011 3:20 pm
Flint;718167 wrote:
I never would have figured startup time, as IE simply pops open and there it is.

Well, yeah. But you're not counting the time it then takes to close it back up and open a useable browser. :D
Gravdigr • Mar 23, 2011 5:10 pm
footfootfoot;718140 wrote:
Firefox, otoh, keeps crashing whenever flash or java starts. I've dowloaded and installed all the updates. pos.


I can count the times Firefox has crashed on me on one hand, and have fingers left over. IE? Hundreds, if not thousands.

:firefox:
skysidhe • Mar 24, 2011 9:35 am
I switched to Chrome a while ago. Firefox was having some issues. I didn't like Chrome at first but after adding extensions it feels more useful. I am quite at home with it now.

I have a bookmark bar, A bookmark drop down menu,speed dial which has the option of including extra pages up to 9 rows and 9 columns.

It is fast but that isn't the reason I have it.


This conversation reminds me, My internet provider tries to sell me extra fast speed internet, or blast internet as they call it. I say, my internet is fast enough, which for me it is.
Cloud • Mar 24, 2011 3:16 pm
dammit, where is the "view page style" that strips out the fancy stuff? (not the page source, the page style)
Gravdigr • Mar 24, 2011 3:17 pm
footfootfoot;718140 wrote:
Firefox, otoh, keeps crashing whenever flash or java starts. I've dowloaded and installed all the updates. [COLOR="Red"]pos[/COLOR].


footfootfoot;714078 wrote:
Image

:lol::lol::lol:


Is teh funneh!!
Cloud • Mar 24, 2011 8:04 pm
okay, I tried it and can't use it. It doesn't have the ability (that I can see) to view pages in "basic" style, and more seriously, I can't use it with my delicious tags.

so, anyone know how I "undownload" version 4 and go back to the previous version?
glatt • Mar 25, 2011 3:15 pm
I updated to Firefox 4 and have but one complaint. I've got the Google toolbar installed, and the search history in the drop down menu of the query window is not accessible by mouse. You can see your previous search terms, but when you click on them, it does nothing. The only way to access them is to click on the drop down arrow and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to select the search term you want, and then hit enter to select it. It's an annoying bug. I didn't realize how often I accessed that search history until it stopped working.
Cloud • Mar 25, 2011 4:45 pm
hmm. On mine, there's a bright orange drop down box in the upper left corner. When you click on it, you can click on the history, then click a history item.
Cloud • Mar 28, 2011 10:58 pm
it's apparently done away with the option to save your tabs before closing. wtf?
HungLikeJesus • Mar 29, 2011 12:26 am
Under Tools> Options > General > Startup
choose "Show my tabs and windows from last time."

It doesn't ask you anymore, it just does it.
Cloud • Mar 29, 2011 12:53 am
okay, wise guru--what about the View Menu? No option to view a page as a "basic" style?
Happy Monkey • Mar 29, 2011 11:06 am
Cloud;719241 wrote:
it's apparently done away with the option to save your tabs before closing. wtf?

If you close with the red X, it asks. If you use the Firefox menu to exit, it doesn't. I got burned by that.
Pete Zicato • Mar 29, 2011 11:55 am
Happy Monkey;719308 wrote:
If you close with the red X, it asks. If you use the Firefox menu to exit, it doesn't. I got burned by that.

Sounds like a bug. Submit it here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
Gravdigr • Apr 1, 2011 4:23 pm
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"].[/COLOR]
Cloud • Apr 4, 2011 6:14 pm
finally found the toolbar with the "view" menu. good.
Cloud • Apr 9, 2011 12:06 am
don't like where the refresh button is. some random place in the middle . . .