Copy machine security risk

Lamplighter • Oct 4, 2010 4:47 pm
Maybe this has been on TheCellar before, but if not I feel everyone should know about it.

CBS report here...

Since 2002 copy machines have had hard drives, and store images on this hard drive of every copy, fax, and email scan.
Often these images are not erased before the used machine is sold / given away.
Cloud • Oct 4, 2010 5:35 pm
I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot.

it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 4, 2010 6:17 pm
Fuck ya, that's what you get for abusing your employer's trust, using company equipment for personal stuff. :lol:
Happy Monkey • Oct 4, 2010 6:25 pm
Cloud;686435 wrote:
I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot.

it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no.
It does store page images. It probably stores them indefinitely, as in it is not definite how long they are stored. Probably FIFO (first in, first out) - the oldest images are deleted when space is needed.
Cloud • Oct 4, 2010 6:28 pm
I agree. It does scan the pages in order to make the copies, but it doesn't keep them forever. I'm not too worried--someone one have to go through hundreds and hundreds of pages in order to find one kind of usable nugget.

easier to go through our trash :)
Happy Monkey • Oct 4, 2010 6:41 pm
Thousands of pages, I expect. Disk space is cheap.
Cloud • Oct 4, 2010 6:48 pm
hundred and hundreds of thousands of pages. I meant. (aka a whole lot) sorry
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 4, 2010 6:49 pm
Didn't the guy say 20 thousand?
Cloud • Oct 4, 2010 6:57 pm
20,000? we can go through that in a week. Well, okay -- a month. Lawyers kill trees.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 4, 2010 7:02 pm
That doesn't matter, the hard drive is still holding the last 20K when it goes out the door, and that's 20K too many. I'm sure the lawyers wouldn't be happy if you left copies of the last 20K documents you handled on the doorstep.
Cloud • Oct 4, 2010 7:06 pm
don't care. really, really don't.
footfootfoot • Oct 4, 2010 7:08 pm
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 5, 2010 12:18 am
Cloud;686455 wrote:
don't care. really, really don't.
You don't care about your client's personal information. Isn't that violation of your lawyer boss's hypocrite oath? :eek:



3foot, go to your room. :lol:
glatt • Oct 5, 2010 8:22 am
Our copiers have hard drives, and we can access them from our desktops on the network. After I make a personal scan of something, I go back to my desk and pull it up, then I delete it from the copier's hard drive. If it's work related, I just leave it there. Once, I snooped around in that drive a little, but quickly got bored. Nothing juicy in there. I have to assume our IT people know to erase that hard drive before it goes out. They knew to link to it in the first place.
Pete Zicato • Oct 5, 2010 10:17 am
footfootfoot;686456 wrote:
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

Cracked me up, foot.

But... left a boob in the machine?
wolf • Oct 5, 2010 10:21 am
Interesting, given that nearly everything (except for the occasional recipe) I'm copying is a medical record.

The nuthouse's IT guy (who is a legacy hire, has a degree in photojournalism or something, and until the nuthouse gave him a laptop didn't even own a home computer) is probably completely clueless about this.
spudcon • Oct 5, 2010 11:35 am
footfootfoot;686456 wrote:
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

Did she leave her right one in there too?
footfootfoot • Oct 5, 2010 10:25 pm
@ Pete, See, it was originally a blond joke, right? and the implication is that she was SO blond that she forgot the original, and just lay there on the glass until someone came in and saw that she was still there...

I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.
tw • Oct 5, 2010 11:08 pm
footfootfoot;686456 wrote:
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...
spudcon;686627 wrote:
Did she leave her right one in there too?
Apparently it is a good idea to have a spare set safely stashed somewhere.
Pete Zicato • Oct 5, 2010 11:11 pm
footfootfoot;686768 wrote:
@ Pete, See, it was originally a blond joke, right? and the implication is that she was SO blond that she forgot the original, and just lay there on the glass until someone came in and saw that she was still there...

I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.


No. No. Don't give up 'cause I didn't get it. I'm known far and wide as Mr. Oblivious.
glatt • Oct 6, 2010 8:27 am
footfootfoot;686768 wrote:
I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.


I thought it was very funny. Sorry for not throwing a couple of LOLs your way.
footfootfoot • Oct 6, 2010 9:33 am
glatt;686808 wrote:
I thought it was very funny. Sorry for not throwing a couple of LOLs your way.

Nah, there's no need for that, it's the explanations that bum my stone
Shawnee123 • Oct 6, 2010 9:44 am
footfootfoot;686768 wrote:
@ Pete, See, it was originally a blond joke, right? and the implication is that she was SO blond that she forgot the original, and just lay there on the glass until someone came in and saw that she was still there...

I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.


No! Don't stop with the jokes. You're really funny most of the time.

This, however, was not one of those times.

Ba DUM dum!

:D
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 6, 2010 11:23 am
footfootfoot;686830 wrote:
Nah, there's no need for that, it's the explanations that bum my stone
Don't explain, they get it or the don't.
Cloud • Oct 6, 2010 6:04 pm
well I made 5,000 copies today. and the day's not over yet. they don't call me the Copy Queen for nothin!
Pete Zicato • Oct 6, 2010 11:37 pm
Cloud;686941 wrote:
well I made 5,000 copies today. and the day's not over yet. they don't call me the Copy Queen for nothin!

Reminded me of a couple of lines from an old western. Cowboy says, "They don't call me speedy for nothin'". Dance hall girl looks at him meaningfully and says, "I hope they don't call you speedy for everything."

Anybody remember what movie that's from?
Shawnee123 • Oct 7, 2010 9:08 am
Pete Zicato;686989 wrote:
Reminded me of a couple of lines from an old western. Cowboy says, "They don't call me speedy for nothin'". Dance hall girl looks at him meaningfully and says, "I hope they don't call you speedy for everything."

Anybody remember what movie that's from?


I should ask my friends, a married couple. If the TV is on and there is no football...it's Westerns...all the time! I have seriously never seen them watch anything else.

Can you give a hint? I love trivia games.
footfootfoot • Oct 7, 2010 9:29 am
it's gotta be a Mae West line, so I'll guess it's a WC Fields movie. My Little Chickadee?
Spexxvet • Oct 7, 2010 9:40 am
Cloud;686941 wrote:
well I made 5,000 copies today. and the day's not over yet. they don't call me the Copy Queen for nothin!


I didn't know there was a copy festival.
tw • Oct 7, 2010 7:13 pm
Pete Zicato;686989 wrote:
Anybody remember what movie that's from?
If it wasn't in, it should have been in Blazing Saddles.
Shawnee123 • Oct 8, 2010 1:10 pm
footfootfoot;687037 wrote:
it's gotta be a Mae West line, so I'll guess it's a WC Fields movie. My Little Chickadee?


Hmmm, that makes sense.

tw;687163 wrote:
If it wasn't in, it should have been in Blazing Saddles.


Yabbut, he said old western. Saddles is more like an early contemporary comedy. ;)
Pete Zicato • Oct 8, 2010 3:15 pm
Shawnee123;687030 wrote:

Can you give a hint? I love trivia games.

Sorry to lead you on. The reason I ask is that I don't know. I just saw part of the movie and never got the name.
Shawnee123 • Oct 8, 2010 3:19 pm
You tease, you.

I'll ask my buddies tonight if they have any idea!

:)
Shawnee123 • Oct 8, 2010 3:23 pm
Never mind, found it:

Mother, Jugs & Speed, 1976

http://www.moviequotes.com/fullquote.cgi?qnum=88059
Pete Zicato • Oct 8, 2010 5:13 pm
Yeah. The memory is starting to go. It's not even a western.