reading PDF files

Tulip • Mar 19, 2009 11:02 pm
I need a program to open PDF files. Which programs do you suggest I get? I see Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, etc. I want something that's free I can download. Any suggestions? And which site should I download this from?
lumberjim • Mar 20, 2009 1:14 am
yes
Happy Monkey • Mar 20, 2009 1:24 am
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/
Beestie • Mar 20, 2009 3:12 am
Sumatra.

Simple and lightweight and fast.
lumberjim • Mar 20, 2009 2:01 pm
Beestie;547176 wrote:
Sumatra.

Simple and lightweight and fast.

and won't let me right click to print the doc file....i have to open it first.


ETA: fox it works that way, though
Shawnee123 • Mar 20, 2009 2:21 pm
What's wrong with Adobe? Too mainstream?
Beestie • Mar 20, 2009 3:06 pm
Adobe is like planting an oak tree in your hard drive.

It hogs resources, nags you to update it, it remotely connects to servers without explicit permission, it surreptitiously modifies the registry to keep itself running and every single stinkin time you double click a pdf file it it brings your system to a screeching halt while it loads a landfill's worth of libraries and plugins that have already been loaded a zillion times in the same session.

And for what? To read a single page.

Thanks but no thanks.
Shawnee123 • Mar 20, 2009 3:11 pm
*shrugs*

Some of us laypeople go with the known, due to more readily available help, or at least knowing someone you know has heard of it. I had no idea there were even other options. FWIW, my home comp seems to be suffering, but I'm due for a new one anyway.

When I do that, I hope to get opinions here about better options for basic software like Adobe.
Beestie • Mar 20, 2009 3:11 pm
lumberjim;547389 wrote:
and won't let me right click to print the doc file....i have to open it first.


ETA: fox it works that way, though
Foxit is a better choice as an Acrobat replacement. Sumatra is good for reading and quick opening but that's about it. Its worth a look as its footprint is miniscule - it runs well from USB drives, also.
Pie • Mar 20, 2009 3:31 pm
Listen to the Beestie.
Foxit, and never look back.
(CutePDF is also good add-on to allow "print-to-pdf" functionality, and I use PDF Split and Merge to concatenate multiple pdfs or to add/remove pages, etc. PDFsam is a little less polished, but it works as advertised and is worth the price.)
lumberjim • Mar 20, 2009 3:36 pm
Beestie;547442 wrote:
Adobe is like planting an oak tree in your hard drive.

It hogs resources, nags you to update it, it remotely connects to servers without explicit permission, it surreptitiously modifies the registry to keep itself running and every single stinkin time you double click a pdf file it it brings your system to a screeching halt while it loads a landfill's worth of libraries and plugins that have already been loaded a zillion times in the same session.

And for what? To read a single page.

Thanks but no thanks.

I'm glad this came up. I had been using adobe because i assumed it was the best option. For what I do with it, however, it does just what you're describing there. When I use it, it's to print a form off quickly for a deal. I have certain forms I need that are bank specific, and most of them are available as PDF on the main interface program we use for the banks (Dealertrack)

I save these forms and organize them in folders for each bank.....i have them on my desk top*, so instead of having to maintain an inventory of these forms in a drawer, i just print them as needed. adobe leaves itself open after the form is done printing, too.

* i recently found (i think this was another gem found on the cellar, btw) that you can create toolbars within the task bar. that's damn handy.
glatt • Mar 20, 2009 3:59 pm
Pie;547452 wrote:
Listen to the Beestie.
Foxit, and never look back.
(CutePDF is also good add-on to allow "print-to-pdf" functionality, and I use PDF Split and Merge to concatenate multiple pdfs or to add/remove pages, etc. PDFsam is a little less polished, but it works as advertised and is worth the price.)


I'll have to check that out. I have times where I want to send one page of a multi-page pdf off to someone, but not the entire pdf. This sounds perfect.
mbpark • Mar 20, 2009 3:59 pm
Agreed.

Adobe, for all of its warts, is supported for a significant amount of back-end functionality that organizations like the IRS use for forms.

Additionally, it actually is Section 508 compliant, meaning that the forms and PDFs can be used with accessibility software, which is good if you're blind.

Foxit is nice, and so are other programs like Preview on OS X, but Adobe does have a significant amount of functionality that banks, the US Government, and people with disabilities need.
mbpark • Mar 20, 2009 4:00 pm
However, to make PDF files, I use CutePDF. It's a program I can't live without on Windows to do my job.
Beestie • Mar 20, 2009 4:55 pm
mbpark;547479 wrote:
However, to make PDF files, I use CutePDF. It's a program I can't live without on Windows to do my job.


To create PDF files, I use the website DOC2PDF.net. Nothing to install but obviously not private. I tried CutePDF years ago and, for some reason, it didn't agree with me but that was so long ago its probably a lot better now.

Just goes to show - there are numerous options for everything.
tw • Mar 20, 2009 5:28 pm
Beestie;547532 wrote:
To create PDF files, I use the website DOC2PDF.net.
I like the simplicity of PDF995. To make a PDF from any other program, I have a printer named PDF995. It 'prints' a PDF file. Going from PDF to any other format, unfortunately, is tedious.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 21, 2009 5:45 pm
lumberjim;547454 wrote:

* i recently found (i think this was another gem found on the cellar, btw) that you can create toolbars within the task bar. that's damn handy.
Damn, even with nothing expanded it looks like a quarter of your screen is used up with toobars. :mg:
lumberjim • Mar 21, 2009 6:21 pm
WELL.. the bottom part auto hides....
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 21, 2009 6:41 pm
OK, I can see the convenience and increased efficiency in getting your job done would obviously be worth the screen loss for you, but I'd think you'd have to scroll most of those forms to work with them.
lumberjim • Mar 21, 2009 7:00 pm
oh...no.

i just print them, then put them through the forms printer to complete them for signatures.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 21, 2009 7:20 pm
Ah so, no filling in onscreen.