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Nic Name • Jul 20, 2002 2:31 am

I'm Ellen Feiss and I'm a student.

MaggieL • Jul 20, 2002 9:53 am

I'm BIll Gates and I own a software company.

BrianR • Jul 20, 2002 3:51 pm

Damn Maggie. How did you find that one? I'm still snickering over it.

It reminded me that I have a few computer .JPGs stored away. I'll share one here, the rest I may post in the appropriate thread and BAH to the person who didn't post the link to Flem Comics leaving me to find it myself.

Brian

Nic Name • Aug 11, 2002 1:22 am

I switched

Other people have, too.

I've been using PCs since 84, or 85. Since the mid 90s, I've been making my living at supporting them. At some level, I think they're monsterous. Well, maybe not monsterous. But at Indiana University, I'd be one of three or four guys answering the support lines for PCs, while the lone Mac guy would be downloading audio files off the net. Sometimes, I'd even go into the student labs and download DOS shareware on the Macs, because it was easier. And I used to pray that the people wanting the Internet on their computers were Mac users, because all I had to do was give them a floppy diskette.

But I still didn't switch.

I continued to support PCs, and became a network administrator. I got my first laptop, a Dell. I quit having fun with computers. Windows 2000? No fun. Windows ME? No fun. Windows 98, Windows XP? No fun.

Then I got a new job, where I had to support Macs. So I got a used PowerBook G3. OS 9 was OK. But OS X? Shiiineeeeey. And fun! Computing was fun! A computer, was fun. Laughing at the viruses that tried to infect my computer, was satisfying...and fun!

So in January, when I wanted a new laptop, I started lusting after a PowerBook G4. I wanted fun. I wanted style. I wanted...no, I needed, OS X.

I got a PowerBook G4. It's fun. It's stylish. I love it. And I can even run Windows on it, if I really, really need to.

My name is John Lyon, and I'm a Network Administrator.

Nic Name • Aug 16, 2002 12:13 am

My name is Ben Brown.

blowmeetheclown • Aug 16, 2002 8:51 am

Originally posted by Nic Name
My name is Ben Brown.

Forbidden, this page is categorized as Obscene/Extreme.

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The proxy's access control configuration denies access to the requested object through this proxy.

I guess I'll have to check it out from home.

Nic Name • Aug 16, 2002 9:15 am

Then, you won't be seeing this either.

blowmeetheclown • Aug 16, 2002 12:24 pm

Actually, I did get that one. I saw the movie a while back (of course it wasn't as good as the first), and always have wondered why the girl's parents walked into Jim's room looking for her? Or, if it was her room, why was Jim's dad looking for Jim in there? I must've missed a line or something.

perth • Aug 16, 2002 12:54 pm

nah, you didnt miss anything. you liked the first better? i think i liked the second better. stifler was funny as all hell.

blowmeetheclown • Aug 16, 2002 2:49 pm

I thought the sexuality of the 2nd was better (c'mon, good-looking lesbos? hell yea!!), but the jokes were "old and busted." The dude pissing on Stifler was a good example. How could you not know that you're getting sprayed down with urine? On the other hand, I doubt anyone would notice if they drank a beer with a little spooge in it ... especially if it were one of those mass-produced things from Adolf Miller-Weiser or whatever. (Not that it's ever happened to me, it just seems more tangible.)

perth • Aug 16, 2002 3:46 pm

"how'd you get it so warm?"

god i laughed so hard at that line. i think the entire movie is better after a few beers, but i liked it quite a bit.

~james

Nic Name • Aug 16, 2002 4:50 pm

Originally posted by blowmeetheclown

(Not that it's ever happened to me, it just seems more tangible.)

More tangible is when you get it all over your hands ... not that it's ever happened to me.

blowmeetheclown • Aug 17, 2002 8:41 am

Good one, Nic.

Nic Name • Aug 17, 2002 11:43 am

Under the plan, which will coincide with next week's release of Mac OS X version 10.2 (also known as Jaguar), consumers can buy a $199 a copy of the operating system and install it on up to five Macs in a single household.

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-949996.html?tag=cd_mh

jaguar • Aug 17, 2002 8:44 pm

damn good to see. Apple do have thier heads screwed on straight. My Ipod (20G) is in the mail and when i need a laptop i know what ill be getting.

I got a PowerBook G4. It's fun. It's stylish. I love it. And I can even run Windows on it, if I really, really need to.

?! How?!

dave • Aug 18, 2002 2:02 am

Virtual PC.

jaguar • Aug 18, 2002 2:07 am

any idea how well it runs?

dave • Aug 18, 2002 12:58 pm

Slow but sure.

jaguar • Aug 19, 2002 2:49 am

One step closer to a G4 laptop ;)....gotta keep saving......

dave • Aug 19, 2002 10:18 am

My computer loan is up again in June; I'm probably going to skip the new PowerMacs (my dual 800 is still hella fast, and Jaguar will only make it more so) and get a top-of-the-line PowerBook. They are quite the laptop.

Anyway, most important stuff runs OS X native (Photoshop, etc), and you can find replacements for most everything else. I imagine you'll be happy with it.

If you have any questions, let me know. I have a pretty thorough knowledge of the PowerBook and MacOS X, and anything I don't know I can ask an Apple Genius at the Apple Store.

russotto • Aug 19, 2002 2:27 pm

Originally posted by Nic Name
Under the plan, which will coincide with next week's release of Mac OS X version 10.2 (also known as Jaguar), consumers can buy a $199 a copy of the operating system and install it on up to five Macs in a single household.

Gee, that's nice of Apple.

I wonder if there actually ARE any honest-to-a-fault people who were going to buy multiple copies for their multiple home computers in the first place. (Certainly not me. But under the developer program, I can legally install on as many machines as I use for development and testing anyway, which is all of them)

dave • Aug 19, 2002 2:39 pm

As I've stated before, fuck Apple on this one. I just ordered my education copy of MacOS X 10.2 and it's going to get installed on all 3 of my (purchased in the last 14 months) Macs. And probably Jenni's old iMac DV once I get a new hard drive in it. I didn't spend $8,000 on computers + countless more on software and accessories to get fucked on the operating system.

jaguar • Aug 20, 2002 1:58 am

Mmm k thanks. Only question that comes to mind is how well does linux go on the powerbooks? Other one would be linux apps under OSX, sure you've got console but how useful is it? Anyone got things like WINE working yet? Most of the dev stuff i've seen recently for mac (i've been looking around at ipod apps) has been cocca level stuff.

dave • Aug 20, 2002 8:53 am

Linux should work fine. I don't have a PowerBook to test it on, but I have YellowDog 2.2 loaded on my iBook and it's great. All the special keys (volume up/down/mute, brightness, etc) work fine, as does the Airport card, etc. YellowDog is based on RedHat, so the structure should be pretty familiar to most anyone.

As for Linux apps running natively on OS X, you probably want to check out fink @ http://fink.sourceforge.net - it's a project dedicated to porting UNIX applications to MacOS X. I've got a screenshot around here somewhere of xchat (Linux app) running under Sawfish (Linux Window Manager) under a rootless X display (X as in X11), sitting beside MacOS X native Cocoa apps. It's pretty slick, and more stuff is being added all the time (I myself am working on a few ports).

I don't know about WINE specifically, though I would guess that it hasn't been ported. You can check for that yourself - I really have no use for it, so I'm not very interested. However, I think you'll find that you can very easily make do with a PowerBook. Just wait until the new revisions come out - they should be pretty tight, and definitely a better value than what you'd get if you bought now.

MaggieL • Aug 20, 2002 9:51 am

Originally posted by jaguar
Anyone got things like WINE working yet?.

I would think porting WINE would be a big problem on a non Intel-arch system. The acronym WINE stands for WINE Is Not an Emulator; only the Win32 calls are emulated, the x86 instructions are executed natively.

jaguar • Aug 20, 2002 7:21 pm

Good point maggie. I was primarily interested as a fast way to use allot of apps I won't be able to get hold of mac versions of for a while yet, and some for which mac equivalent of the same caliber do not exist at all. Ah well ill look atound and see what i can dig up, i'm still pretty set on the G4 laptops.

Scred • Aug 23, 2002 9:24 pm

http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/MSwitch.html

http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/ESwitch.html

http://www.ultramicroscopic.com/images4/switch.html

dave • Aug 24, 2002 12:08 pm

mmmmmmmmm... yummmmmmmmy

Slight • Aug 31, 2002 12:34 am

Originally posted by dhamsaic

mmmmmmmmm... yummmmmmmmy

What kind of sick bastard are you? iBook, G4 Ti, Airport base station, iPod along with the rest of you booty, but then you flaunt X.2 to the jaguireless. That my friend is evil.

All the switch parodies are hilarious cept the prOn freak.

Nic Name • Aug 31, 2002 12:53 am

I keep lookin' for the dham switch parody. Has anyone got one?

dave • Aug 31, 2002 1:06 am

http://metastudios.com/images/temp-setup.jpg

Yes, that's a 21" flat CRT on the left. :P

The TiBook isn't mine, but the PowerMac is. :)

Undertoad • Aug 31, 2002 10:24 am

There's something wrong about seeing all that technology, including an Aeron chair, in a place with electric baseboard heat.

What am I saying, no there isn't!

Technology belongs everwhere!

Nic Name • Sep 8, 2002 1:18 pm

Ease into the switch with this helpful article.

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