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10-29-2004, 04:37 PM | #1 |
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Bin Laden's Alive and Well and making new videos
Just saw where a tanned, rested, healthy-looking Osama has released a new video--the news here did not say what the message on the tape was, but does anyone else think the timing of this new tape is scary? I'm getting stressed all over again...
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10-29-2004, 07:27 PM | #2 | |
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The jist of what Osama said this time around is that our security rests with neither Bush nor Kerry but with ourselves. He condemns and makes fun of Bush Sr and Jr, says that the current hatred started way back in 1982 when the US supported Israel in doing something atrocious and likens the Bush family legacy of running the country to how territory is passed down from father to son in many Arab areas. This tape didn't give any solid promises of terror.
Afterthought: I find this tape amusing. Not so much the message or the person, but the timing of it. Also, people were so afraid there would be terror attacks on US soil or interests before Nov 2nd intended to sway votes, like what happened in Spain. Granted, there are a few days left to go, but so far it seems this tape is all They've done to meet that end. Osama basically released a PSA against both candidates, not just one or the other. I'd rather have a video of him vocally not liking either candidate than have explosions going off somewhere.
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10-30-2004, 01:52 AM | #4 | |
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Even though Bin Laden has criticised both Bush and Kerry, the video has to help Bush. I think many swinging voters who were beginning to lean towards Kerry on economic grounds are going to jump back to Bush, based on security/safety issues. One thing I thought of when I heard about the video was, where is Bin Laden getting his medical support from? He is rumoured to have kidney failure. He must be getting access to a hospital or clinic for treatment. Maybe his friends in Pakistan are helping him. Whoever they are, they deserve the death sentence right along with him.
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10-30-2004, 02:29 AM | #5 |
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My fear is that via the video tape he is signalling terrorist cells. Like, "ok, when I move my hand like this it means etc., etc..."--the TAPE doesn't bother me; it's the potential of the tape. I don't think it's funny. I think it's scary.
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10-30-2004, 07:13 PM | #7 | |
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I, for one, would just use the Internet to get my message out to my secret international cohorts (and, NO, anyone from Homeland Security who might be monitoring this, I'm not a terrorist; although I probably annoy many of you, I DO draw the line at murder!) There's plenty of public access places like librairies and internet cafe's and bars EVERYWHERE. You could have a coded message that you post to some discussion group like the Cellar. We already count God, Buddha, and Saddam Hussein among our members, why not Osami? All those lurkers who read this stuff we post must be waiting for SOMETHING? Right? See, now you can be scared of wierd posts you read here. Pretty soon, everyone in America will be scared of EVERYTHING, just like "what's his face from America" in that other thread. That's EXACTLY what would please Bin Laden most. Personally, I'm sticking with my fear of deer. Almost hit another one tonight! |
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10-30-2004, 08:43 PM | #8 |
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i like you, you make sence no paranoya in your life, l have said this before but off i go again, Terror is to scare people with fear of what may happen, the goverment wip it up to control people and justify there actions!!! and did you no Margaret Thatcher called Melsan Mandela a terrorist, makes you think? lets say Bin Laden has a point the way my goverment your goverment the russias the france have always been nicking oil and damning the middle east way of life for years not years but centarys, killing peoples not the way to go about it i now but maybe, just maybe he has a point that all im saying. dont get me wrong if i bumped into binny boy Laden hes be on his arse before you can say ak47. |
10-30-2004, 08:48 PM | #9 |
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"Bin Laden's Alive and Well and making new videos"
That Kennebunkport weather has done him a world of good...
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10-30-2004, 10:25 PM | #11 |
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Granted, I'm a Sycamore liberal, but it seems to me that this was a "Nyah nyah!" to the Bush administration.
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10-31-2004, 09:49 AM | #12 |
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The reason I'm voting for Kerry is because I'm afraid--afraid of Bush.
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10-31-2004, 07:34 PM | #14 | |
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What in that tape has relevance? Bin Laden is still alive, apparantly quite healthy, and still not being sought by George Jr. George Jr instead tried to blame Saddam even on 13 September 2004. One could then say this tape mocks George Jr. That does not even suggest the tape helps or hurts George Jr. Again, everyone will only see in this tape what they want to see. |
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10-31-2004, 08:01 PM | #15 |
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I thought an interesting point was made on that Nightline episode by Richard Clarke and the other dude who's name I dont remember- that this tape was very much meant to be seen by the increasingly less and less moderate Arab world. Bin Laden appears "presidential" speaking from a lecturn, not from some cave or hideyhole. He is reasoning (sick reasoning, but reasoning). He is leading....Hes a playa.
And the close of the show Koppel had a good final thought for voters. Like Bush, vote Bush. Like Kerry, vote Kerry. "Dont let this guy mess with your head". |
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