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Old 06-14-2011, 01:09 AM   #1
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NSFW objectification

I was watching Bones the other day and during one ep the following was said:

"...I objectify myself every time I put on lipstick."

Question posed:

Is all sexulazation objectification?

OR

Can one exist as a sexual being and not objectify?

Does there exist other forms of objectifcation that desexualize a person.
If true are they equally wrong?
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:51 AM   #2
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How is this NSFW?
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:26 AM   #3
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Maybe she wants us to post examples.

You first..
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:03 AM   #4
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Wait, Toranokaze is a she? I thought Toranokaze was a he.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:06 AM   #5
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:08 AM   #6
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:59 AM   #7
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How is this NSFW?
It is a human sexuality thread I figured I should throw up the tag just in case.


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Wait, Toranokaze is a she? I thought Toranokaze was a he.


Yes I am a HE NOT a she.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:27 AM   #8
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I was watching Bones the other day and during one ep the following was said:

"...I objectify myself every time I put on lipstick."
I think Ani di Franco expresses a similar sentiment in her song Fuel.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:21 PM   #9
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Sexuality is a large part of who 'we' are, who 'I' am. But if it's the seemingly ONLY part of who you are, or the only part that people take the time to see about you, that is objectification.

Which is pretty much what I've said over and over, over the years.
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:39 PM   #10
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Is all sexualization objectification? Yes

Fashion is also objectification. It just addresses a different crowd.
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:06 PM   #11
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Fashion is also objectification. It just addresses a different crowd.
Well that depends what sort of fashion you're talking about really.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:33 PM   #12
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Is all sexualization objectification? Yes

Fashion is also objectification. It just addresses a different crowd.
I read a great article a while back, the Economist or Atlantic, can't remember, written by a woman, who said that most women dress to impress and compete with other women, not look good for men. Made sense.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:37 AM   #13
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:22 AM   #14
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I just dress in whatever currently fits
I hear ya. I tend to dress according to what my skin can take.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:36 AM   #15
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