Nov 27, 2010: Bellamy Salute

xoxoxoBruce · 11-26-2010, 11:34 PM

Francis Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892.
A lot of people (read me) don't know it came with a salute, also from Bellamy,
to be used while saying the pledge.

I know, I know, it looks strange now, but that's because thirty-odd years later
Benito started to use it as a Roman Salute, followed by Adolf's Nazi Salute.
When WW II (the big one) came along pictures of American kids that didn't show
the flag too, were open to misinterpretation.

So FDR said we can't have that, and changed it to the hand over heart salute we're familiar with.
Congress made it law at the end of 1942.

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newtimer · 11-27-2010, 08:46 AM

Most people also don't know that American children used to goose-step-march in Independence Day parades.

toranokaze · 11-27-2010, 01:01 PM

And we have the same social Darwinism movement (Eugenics) that Hitler did as well.

Slight · 11-28-2010, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So FDR said we can't have that, and changed it to the hand over heart salute we're familiar with.
Congress made it law at the end of 1942.

I am glad that the law is currently an unenforceable code; so children asserting their first amendment right can choose not to super conform into groupthink formations. I find that both salutes too closely resemble church and boot camp. Patriotic indoctrination scares me, even though I'd say it is necessary.

Good find Bruce.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-28-2010, 07:41 AM

Good point, when I said law I was referring to congress changing the uniform flag code at the behest of FDR. That doesn't mean legally required, as in haul you off to the clink for not complying, but it is the guide for teachers, scoutmasters, and other youth indoctrinators. The biggest problem is most people don't know where the hell their heart is.

HungLikeJesus · 12-05-2010, 09:50 PM

San Francisco?

Sundae · 12-07-2010, 07:41 AM

I thought this might be about David Bellamy (OBE).
Gwapple me gwapenuts.

Never mind.

11-26-2010, 11:34 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nov 27, 2010: Bellamy Salute Francis Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892. A lot of people (read me) don't know it came with a salute, also from Bellamy, to be used while saying the pledge. I know, I know, it looks strange now, but that's because thirty-odd years later Benito started to use it as a Roman Salute, followed by Adolf's Nazi Salute. When WW II (the big one) came along pictures of American kids that didn't show the flag too, were open to misinterpretation. So FDR said we can't have that, and changed it to the hand over heart salute we're familiar with. Congress made it law at the end of 1942. link link __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-27-2010, 01:01 PM	#3
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	And we have the same social Darwinism movement (Eugenics) that Hitler did as well. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

11-28-2010, 07:41 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Good point, when I said law I was referring to congress changing the uniform flag code at the behest of FDR. That doesn't mean legally required, as in haul you off to the clink for not complying, but it is the guide for teachers, scoutmasters, and other youth indoctrinators. The biggest problem is most people don't know where the hell their heart is. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-05-2010, 09:50 PM	#6
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	San Francisco? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-07-2010, 07:41 AM	#7
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I thought this might be about David Bellamy (OBE). Gwapple me gwapenuts. Never mind. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-27-2010, 08:46 AM	#2
newtimer Operations Operative Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 479	Most people also don't know that American children used to goose-step-march in Independence Day parades.

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