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Old 02-02-2009, 08:26 PM   #1
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Republicans Want Party To Be Like Palin

Good Lord Please say it isn't so.

A new Rasmussen poll further demonstrates that the GOP could be in for a long stretch in the wilderness: A majority of GOP voters now say that the party should be more like Sarah Palin.

The numbers: 55% of Republicans say the party should be like Palin, compared to 24% who say they should be like John McCain.

As I've previously noted, poll data like this could indicate that the Republican Party is getting ready to relive the classic cycle of ruling parties who get turned out of power in a landslide: With the party base itself shrunk down, the people who are still around are the most hard-line members, and are really the least fit people to fix the situation.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:28 PM   #2
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Hmmm...the Palin Party. lol

That'd be interesting to watch.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:18 PM   #3
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Its like a self-inflicted death spiral that can only further alienate the Independent swing voters who are key to electoral success.

Crunch the numbers....most polls put about 40% of the voters as self-identified Republican or "leaning Republican" (the number is at an all time high for Dem/leaning Dem -over 50%).

Of that 40% of the US electorate who are Republican, just over half say the party should be like Palin. So...about 20% of the total electorate are Palinists. That is not a winning number!

If I were a Republican, I would be seriously concerned by this recent Gallup poll:


The...map shows party strength by state for 2008, ranging from states that can be considered solidly Democratic (a Democratic advantage in party identification of 10 percentage points or more) to those that can be considered solidly Republican (a Republican advantage in party identification of 10 percentage points or more). States in which the partisan advantage is less than 5 points in either direction are considered "competitive."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/St...filiation.aspx
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:27 PM   #4
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I said this earlier last year. Republicans need to change. Maybe the majority of Republicans want the party to be more like Palin, but no Democrats will accept a Palin-like president and that will take away independents as well.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:28 PM   #5
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Interesting Statistics


Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law,

St. Paul, Minnesota, points out facts of 2008 Presidential election:


Number of States won by:

Democrats: 19

Republicans: 29


Square miles of land won by:

Democrats: 580,000
Republicans: 2,427,000


Population of counties won by:

Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million


Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Democrats: 13.2
Republicans: 2.1


Professor Olson adds:

"In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won by Republicans

was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.


Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
government-owned tenements and living off various forms of

government welfare.



Professor Olson believes the United States is now somewhere

between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's

definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's

population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.



If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to

the USA in fewer than five years
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:36 PM   #6
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Thats funny...the electoral map I have seen has Obama winning 28 state and McCain winning 22. I would like see where he got the D-19, R-29 number.

And with the largest percentage win (52%) since Reagan' second term (and more than Reagan's first term)

There are also currently 28 Democrats and 22 Republicans serving as governors.

BTW, square miles dont vote.

And Congress doesnt have to provide a path to citizenship to change the face of the electorate....it will happen either way within the next 40-50 years....The white face of American will no longer by the majority.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:40 PM   #7
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Thank God for the electoral college eh?
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:42 PM   #8
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Actually, I would like to see a Constitutional amendment to change the electoral college system so that a state's electoral votes can be divided and more representative...rather than winner take all (except for Maine and Nebraska)
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:44 PM   #9
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Screw that.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:47 PM   #10
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Actually, I would like to see a Constitutional amendment to change the electoral college system so that a state's electoral votes can be divided and more representative...rather than winner take all (except for Maine and Nebraska)
Interesting concept, I wonder if that would get more of the "minority party" to vote in a stat that has a vast majority party?
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:37 PM   #11
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Like Texas, which has a handful of very blue counties in a sea of red.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:37 AM   #12
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As I've previously noted, poll data like this could indicate that the Republican Party is getting ready to relive the classic cycle of ruling parties who get turned out of power in a landslide: With the party base itself shrunk down, the people who are still around are the most hard-line members, and are really the least fit people to fix the situation.

Watch this space. You just predicted the fate of my own party.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:33 AM   #13
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The righty blogs seem to believe that the R party has lost its way by not being Conservative enough. Unfortunately only a third of them think this means they should push for less spending, and two-thirds of them think this means a return to moral/culture war issues.

I think that this is a losing idea, and I predict that, barring terror attack, the Rs will have to face an even bigger election loss before they find any traction. I believe the Terri Schaivo bumblefuck had more of an effect on the 2006 and 2008 elections than people think.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:49 AM   #14
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I just dont get how some Republicans can believe that this is the way to restore the party's national credibility:

Joe the Plumber advises GOP-ers

WTF are they thinking? Palin and the Plumber (aka war correspondent and now political consultant/strategist)?

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Old 02-03-2009, 09:08 AM   #15
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Who wouldnt want that hanging on their wall!
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