If your erection lasts for more than 4 hours...

Pangloss62 · 05-08-2006, 06:31 PM

The idea that Viagra and its clones are drugs only for men is simply silly. The whole point of Viagra is to make sure you can maintain an erection long enough to bring your woman "friend" to orgasm. Women have been waiting for a drug like that for years. Men are so sensitive about their natural performance that they turned normal sexual response into a lucrative business (hold off on that AIDS research Jim, we've got a good one here!). Alfred Kinsey may have been a bit eccentric, and may have even fudged some numbers, but much of his "report" contains valid data. Consider this:

"For perhaps three-quarters of all males, orgasm is reached within two minutes after the initiation of the sexual relation, and for a not inconsiderable number of males the climax may be reached within less than a minute or even within ten or twenty seconds after coital entrance. Occassionally, a male may become so stimulated psychically or through physical petting that he ejaculates before he has effected genital union."

God I love those terms "coital entrance" and "genital union." "Honey, I feel ready to initiate coital entrance. OK?" "Hey hon, I'm in the mood for a genital union. You up for that after the game?"

Moreover, I think Kinsey makes a good point about rapid response that exposes our essential selfeshness, especially among women::

"Far from being abnormal, the human male who is quick in his sexual response is quite normal among he mammals, and usual in his own speices [most people forget that we are primates]. It is curious that the term 'impotance' should have ever been applied to such rapid response. It would be difficult to find another situation in which and individual was quick and intense in his repsonses was labeled anything but superior, and that in most instances is exactly what the rapidly ejaculating male probably is, however inconvenient and unfortunate his qualities may be from the standpoint of the wife in the relationship."

Unfortunately, I am abnormal, and can engage in genital union for as long as my partner wants. Oh, how I long to be a "normal" primate.

And why do you think all these older women are hooking up with teenage boys? I'll let Kinsey tell you:

"Exceptions are found chiefly among younger married males who are still in their teens. At that age, 15 percent of the population is capable of experiencing two or more ejaculations during a limited period of time and during continuous erotic activity [this has always been the case for me]. The number of males who are capable of such multiple orgasm decreases with advancing age. Not more than 7 percent remain so capable by age 35 [cue the violins, or get some Viagra]."

I think the above explains a lot about dysfunctional sexuality among today's couples; it's not about performance, it's about psychology.. We're all too selfish and too insecure.

KinkyVixen · 05-08-2006, 06:40 PM

Just for the record (and I've only read a portion of this entry so it could be completely irrelevant) but I have to say this, just for the record, and in my opinion only...

Those pills weren't made or geared towards women. I don't care how long my guy goes..although I want at least more than 2 minutes...I don't care how long he goes as long as I'm getting enjoyment out of it too. That for mean, means orgasm as well. You don't have to have a hard on to get a girl off....you can get a girl off in many more ways than just having an erection. You can use your hands, your mouth, toys...or whatever else you may be into. In my opinion those pills are made for guys who think that the longer they go the better they are, or just for guys who can't get it up in general.

richlevy · 05-08-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KinkyVixen

You can use your hands, your mouth, toys...

You forgot to put in the disclaimer.

"I am not a lawyer. Please check you local and state laws for sodomy statutes and restrictions on sexual devices which would place this advice in contradiction of laws created by prudish morons who probably couldn't spell erection, never mind actually achieve one."

MaggieL · 05-08-2006, 07:10 PM

These drugs are prescribed for "erectile dysfunction", which usually means "can't get it up at all'.

And that "four hour" warning is very very real; my ex- (a nurse practitioner who works in emergency medicine) explained that when a priapism (which is what that is called) lasts for too long, the blood pooled in the corpus cavernosum starts to clot...and may need to be drained surgically.

Ew.

MaggieL · 05-08-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KinkyVixen

You don't have to have a hard on to get a girl off....

Ya think? :-)

KinkyVixen · 05-08-2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Ya think? :-)

Hey! Be nice, I was just reacting to this...

Quote:

The whole point of Viagra is to make sure you can maintain an erection long enough to bring your woman "friend" to orgasm.

KinkyVixen · 05-08-2006, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlevy

You forgot to put in the disclaimer.

"I am not a lawyer. Please check you local and state laws for sodomy statutes and restrictions on sexual devices which would place this advice in contradiction of laws created by prudish morons who probably couldn't spell erection, never mind actually achieve one."

And thanks RL...I never thought I would actually have to put a disclaimer on my own opinion but I guess in this day and age it would be advisable. So, Thanks.

Pangloss62 · 05-08-2006, 10:16 PM

Indeed. It is not just traditional coitus that can bring a woman to orgasm. We have very large brains, so we should be able to make sure "you" (meaning women) are brought to a nice, deep, and satisfying orgasmic experience. Just as you said; there is more than one way to skin a cat. I feel best when my woman has an orgasm, even if I don't. I like to please her.

footfootfoot · 05-10-2006, 10:16 PM

someone wake me up when I come...zzzzzzzzzz

mrnoodle · 05-11-2006, 09:50 AM

Women have orgasms?

I've never stuck around after mine long enough to find out. Hmph. Who'da thought.

/pig

DucksNuts · 05-11-2006, 07:41 PM

noodle, have I dated you in the past???

xoxoxoBruce · 05-11-2006, 08:05 PM

Most men can get off in under two minutes because their ancestors did. The slow ones got eaten by critters while they were distracted and didn't reproduce as much. Being quick is better for the reproduction scheme of things.

The fly in the ointment is, it sometimes interferes with making love, which is a whole different matter. To be successful at that, takes more work and imagination which is even tougher, post orgasm.

footfootfoot · 05-11-2006, 09:20 PM

I miss making love. ever since the advent of the inchlet we've been on a strict regimen of exhaustion induced abstinence interupted sporadically with knee wobblers.

The nice thing about making love is that you can make love for four hours and being hard never really (brace yourself Kathleen) enters into it.

05-12-2006, 02:05 AM

How about a drug that helps with women's sex drive, you know sever it from all the "junk" they attach to it?
Man, we need that one!

Iggy · 05-12-2006, 02:19 PM

They say testosterone increases womens sex drive, but I don't really want the side effects of it. Like increased body hair and acne. Who needs that!

05-08-2006, 06:31 PM	#1
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	If your erection lasts for more than 4 hours... The idea that Viagra and its clones are drugs only for men is simply silly. The whole point of Viagra is to make sure you can maintain an erection long enough to bring your woman "friend" to orgasm. Women have been waiting for a drug like that for years. Men are so sensitive about their natural performance that they turned normal sexual response into a lucrative business (hold off on that AIDS research Jim, we've got a good one here!). Alfred Kinsey may have been a bit eccentric, and may have even fudged some numbers, but much of his "report" contains valid data. Consider this: "For perhaps three-quarters of all males, orgasm is reached within two minutes after the initiation of the sexual relation, and for a not inconsiderable number of males the climax may be reached within less than a minute or even within ten or twenty seconds after coital entrance. Occassionally, a male may become so stimulated psychically or through physical petting that he ejaculates before he has effected genital union." God I love those terms "coital entrance" and "genital union." "Honey, I feel ready to initiate coital entrance. OK?" "Hey hon, I'm in the mood for a genital union. You up for that after the game?" Moreover, I think Kinsey makes a good point about rapid response that exposes our essential selfeshness, especially among women:: "Far from being abnormal, the human male who is quick in his sexual response is quite normal among he mammals, and usual in his own speices [most people forget that we are primates]. It is curious that the term 'impotance' should have ever been applied to such rapid response. It would be difficult to find another situation in which and individual was quick and intense in his repsonses was labeled anything but superior, and that in most instances is exactly what the rapidly ejaculating male probably is, however inconvenient and unfortunate his qualities may be from the standpoint of the wife in the relationship." Unfortunately, I am abnormal, and can engage in genital union for as long as my partner wants. Oh, how I long to be a "normal" primate. And why do you think all these older women are hooking up with teenage boys? I'll let Kinsey tell you: "Exceptions are found chiefly among younger married males who are still in their teens. At that age, 15 percent of the population is capable of experiencing two or more ejaculations during a limited period of time and during continuous erotic activity [this has always been the case for me]. The number of males who are capable of such multiple orgasm decreases with advancing age. Not more than 7 percent remain so capable by age 35 [cue the violins, or get some Viagra]." I think the above explains a lot about dysfunctional sexuality among today's couples; it's not about performance, it's about psychology.. We're all too selfish and too insecure. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

05-08-2006, 06:40 PM	#2
KinkyVixen Marching In! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 580	Just for the record (and I've only read a portion of this entry so it could be completely irrelevant) but I have to say this, just for the record, and in my opinion only... Those pills weren't made or geared towards women. I don't care how long my guy goes..although I want at least more than 2 minutes...I don't care how long he goes as long as I'm getting enjoyment out of it too. That for mean, means orgasm as well. You don't have to have a hard on to get a girl off....you can get a girl off in many more ways than just having an erection. You can use your hands, your mouth, toys...or whatever else you may be into. In my opinion those pills are made for guys who think that the longer they go the better they are, or just for guys who can't get it up in general. __________________ "Smile before bed.You'll sleep better."

05-08-2006, 07:10 PM	#4
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	These drugs are prescribed for "erectile dysfunction", which usually means "can't get it up at all'. And that "four hour" warning is very very real; my ex- (a nurse practitioner who works in emergency medicine) explained that when a priapism (which is what that is called) lasts for too long, the blood pooled in the corpus cavernosum starts to clot...and may need to be drained surgically. Ew. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

05-08-2006, 10:16 PM	#8
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	I totally agree Indeed. It is not just traditional coitus that can bring a woman to orgasm. We have very large brains, so we should be able to make sure "you" (meaning women) are brought to a nice, deep, and satisfying orgasmic experience. Just as you said; there is more than one way to skin a cat. I feel best when my woman has an orgasm, even if I don't. I like to please her. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

05-10-2006, 10:16 PM	#9
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	someone wake me up when I come...zzzzzzzzzz __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-11-2006, 09:50 AM	#10
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	Women have orgasms? I've never stuck around after mine long enough to find out. Hmph. Who'da thought. /pig __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

05-11-2006, 07:41 PM	#11
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	noodle, have I dated you in the past???

05-11-2006, 08:05 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Most men can get off in under two minutes because their ancestors did. The slow ones got eaten by critters while they were distracted and didn't reproduce as much. Being quick is better for the reproduction scheme of things. The fly in the ointment is, it sometimes interferes with making love, which is a whole different matter. To be successful at that, takes more work and imagination which is even tougher, post orgasm. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-11-2006, 09:20 PM	#13
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I miss making love. ever since the advent of the inchlet we've been on a strict regimen of exhaustion induced abstinence interupted sporadically with knee wobblers. The nice thing about making love is that you can make love for four hours and being hard never really (brace yourself Kathleen) enters into it. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-12-2006, 02:05 AM	#14
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	How about a drug that helps with women's sex drive, you know sever it from all the "junk" they attach to it? Man, we need that one!

05-12-2006, 02:19 PM	#15
Iggy Back and ready to tart up the place Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 850	They say testosterone increases womens sex drive, but I don't really want the side effects of it. Like increased body hair and acne. Who needs that! __________________ Chock-full of naughty goodness.

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