If anything happens to your CDs, they can be readily replaced at affordable prices

SteveDallas · 02-16-2006, 11:05 AM

No, really, they can. The RIAA said so.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060215-6190.html

Elspode · 02-16-2006, 01:58 PM

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With regards to the argument that the DMCA is bad law because it prevents users from making backups, the joint reply dismissed such arguments as "uncompelling." First, they argue that there is no evidence that "any of the relevant media are 'unusually subject to damage in the ordinary course of their use.'"

Obviously, the RIAA hasn't seen the condition of some of the DVDs and CD's that I copy...er, um...borrow from the library.

wolf · 02-16-2006, 02:07 PM

I'm trying to get my head around all of that. I think they actually said that even if I already bought the CD, it's not fair use to rip it and put it on an iPod that I own ... that I have to re-purchase the content for the purpose of placing it on a portable device?

Beestie · 02-16-2006, 02:36 PM

Be thankful you don't have to send Cary Sherman a check for $17.99 each and every time you listen to it.

Yet.

Elspode · 02-16-2006, 02:41 PM

I wonder if any of the current CEO's of Corporate America ever heard the old saying about killing the goose that laid the golden egg...

richlevy · 02-18-2006, 03:26 PM

Actually, it would be fairly simple for the free market to take effect here. Simply have the industry label in large unambiguous lettering 'restricted use' any CD's that they feel cannot be 'backed up'. Then let independent artists label theirs 'fair use' in equally large unambiguous lettering. Or simply have the FTC define the phrase 'fair use' and let companies place it on their products the way they do 'fat free' and 'low calorie'. The market would sort this all out really quickly.

This is similar to what happened with debit cards. Unlike credit cards, debit cards have very few legal protections against fraud. Instead of the government stepping in, banks are now competing with commercials on recovering from fraud.

SteveDallas · 02-18-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

I'm trying to get my head around all of that. I think they actually said that even if I already bought the CD, it's not fair use to rip it and put it on an iPod that I own ... that I have to re-purchase the content for the purpose of placing it on a portable device?

In essence, yes.... "if you wanted to play it on you MP3 player you should have bought it as a digital file from an online store instead of getting the CD."

Anybody who wants to check out a DRM-free online service, visit www.emusic.com. If your taste runs to the latest mass-produced bubblegum-pop diva or this week's hot boy band, you're out of luck, but if you have more eclectic tastes you might find it interesting.

Beestie · 02-18-2006, 10:46 PM

I recommend emusic.com. Good folks.

02-16-2006, 11:05 AM	#1
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	If anything happens to your CDs, they can be readily replaced at affordable prices No, really, they can. The RIAA said so. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060215-6190.html

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wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I'm trying to get my head around all of that. I think they actually said that even if I already bought the CD, it's not fair use to rip it and put it on an iPod that I own ... that I have to re-purchase the content for the purpose of placing it on a portable device? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	Be thankful you don't have to send Cary Sherman a check for $17.99 each and every time you listen to it. Yet. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

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Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I wonder if any of the current CEO's of Corporate America ever heard the old saying about killing the goose that laid the golden egg... __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Actually, it would be fairly simple for the free market to take effect here. Simply have the industry label in large unambiguous lettering 'restricted use' any CD's that they feel cannot be 'backed up'. Then let independent artists label theirs 'fair use' in equally large unambiguous lettering. Or simply have the FTC define the phrase 'fair use' and let companies place it on their products the way they do 'fat free' and 'low calorie'. The market would sort this all out really quickly. This is similar to what happened with debit cards. Unlike credit cards, debit cards have very few legal protections against fraud. Instead of the government stepping in, banks are now competing with commercials on recovering from fraud. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

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