What is your favorite cuss word? - Page 6

jinx · 03-15-2006, 06:53 PM

Mr.noodle I hear what you're saying about intent versus word choice, and I completely agree. If I feel that someone is trying to piss me off they'll get a much different reaction than someone who happens to use a word or phrase I personally find offensive.
But for you to decide what someones intent is, based only on their choice of words, is wrong. I'm telling you right now that when JFC comes out of my mouth it's certainly not my intent to "sully the name and image of something sacred". Nope, my intent is to swear, to release anger, because I've spilled my tea, lost my keys, or otherwise experienced minor displeasure. JFC being one of many in my personal repertoire. Now if I actually wanted to insult someone, I don't think just saying JFC to them would get it done for me. And if jesus's name or image were sacred to me, I'd be a xtian, and likely would never say JFC in the first place.

What decency has to do with any of this, I'm not sure. If you think that saying "fuck off, you lowlife cunt" is any more decent than saying JFC (keeping intent in mind).... well, again we disagree. The only way that would make any sense to me is if you equate "decent" with "xtian".

MaggieL · 03-15-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

The only way that would make any sense to me is if you equate "decent" with "xtian".

The same kind of "I insist you adapt your behavior to my religious values" that gets people killed over cartoons.

mrnoodle · 03-17-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

The same kind of "I insist you adapt your behavior to my religious values" that gets people killed over cartoons.

I don't insist anyone adapt their behavior to my values. I do reserve the right to not listen to them if something they say offends me, though.

That's still okay, right?

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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4

HAHAHAHAHA
can you imagine jesus titty fucking a chick? HAHAHAAHA (no offence to christians, im sure you can find it funny without going to hell)

How is that not offensive to christians? Why is it more wrong for me to be offended at that imagery than it is for someone to use it to deliberately offend me? (not that you were doing that, just saying).

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Originally Posted by Stress Puppy

If you said that my two year old sucks my dead father's cock in hell, I would very literally laugh in your face. I'm giggling now just thinking about someone actually saying that. Scratch that, the more I think about it, I'm gaffawing.

That one was a little overblown (no pun intended). But the point was, there's a difference between just cussing and trying to offend on a personal level. If your kid smoking your dad's pole brings a twinkle to your eye, that's fine I guess - but the point is the effect I was going for not the one I got.

mrnoodle · 03-17-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx

What decency has to do with any of this, I'm not sure. If you think that saying "fuck off, you lowlife cunt" is any more decent than saying JFC (keeping intent in mind).... well, again we disagree. The only way that would make any sense to me is if you equate "decent" with "xtian".

No, the two statements are equally reprehensible. What I object to is the underlying prejudice that says "Anything I say that offends your religion is cool, because everybody knows that "xtians" are full of shit, and they are to be demeaned at every opportunity (including taking the "christ" out of their name -- they really hate that). If they don't like it, too bad. Oh, but if they say something good about God, particularly in front of my kids, they're cramming their religion down my throat -- see you in court."

Gotta meeting, I'll continue digging my hole in a few...

jinx · 03-17-2006, 10:45 AM

You're actually looking for reasons to be offended, do you realize that noodle?

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X·mas ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krsms, ksms)
n. <dl><dd>Christmas.</dd></dl>
<hr align="left" width="25%">[From<tt> X</tt>, the Greek letter chi, first letter of Greek<tt> Khrstos</tt>, Christ. See Christ.]
Usage Note: Xmas has been used for hundreds of years in religious writing, where the X represents a Greek chi, the first letter of, “Christ.” In this use it is parallel to other forms like Xtian, “Christian.” But people unaware of the Greek origin of this X often mistakenly interpret Xmas as an informal shortening pronounced. Many therefore frown upon the term Xmas because it seems to them a commercial convenience that omits Christ from Christmas.

People are killing and dying everyday becuase of percieved offenses to their religions. I don't think you're making a lot of points with GOD arguing on a message board. Grow some balls man, strap a bomb on.

wolf · 03-17-2006, 12:39 PM

I don't use the "X" word ... to shorten either Christian or Christmas. I believe that the use IS derogatory. I spend a lot more time hanging out on pagan/earth religions sites and boards. It's extremely rare to find commentary that is not in some way vilifying Christianity.

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Originally Posted by jinx

People are killing and dying everyday becuase of percieved offenses to their religions. I don't think you're making a lot of points with GOD arguing on a message board. Grow some balls man, strap a bomb on.

That is going way too far, in a throwing gasoline on a blazing fire kind of way. Whether your statement is hyperbolic commentary or not, MrNoodle is not a religious fanatic. He is not a suicide bomber, he isn't even trying to sell you WWJD wristbands or make you believe what he believes.

He is trying to live HIS life according to a set of principles that makes sense to him, which also allow him to make sense of the world around him.

There is nothing but respect in that, for himself, and for others.

Why do you have to try to turn it into a fight, or suggest that he is in some way emasculated by belief, rather than emboldened by it?

lumberjim · 03-15-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

The only way that would make any sense to me is if you equate "decent" with "xtian".

isn't that what bothers most nonchristians about christians??

Stress Puppy · 03-15-2006, 07:55 PM

Oh, I have a friend, who has trained her fiancee to just listen patiently when she's had a bad day, then at the end say, "Stupid fuckheads."

Kagen4o4 · 03-15-2006, 08:27 PM

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"Jesus Titty Fucking Christ"

HAHAHAHAHA
can you imagine jesus titty fucking a chick? HAHAHAAHA (no offence to christians, im sure you can find it funny without going to hell)

wolf · 03-15-2006, 09:18 PM

I have been known, on occasion, to refer to the sort of woman that folks with fewer social graces might call a cunt as a "brainless receptacle of sperm."

Yes, I know that a good number of the menfolk here just wondered "what's so bad about that?"

One of my other favorites is "sucks moose cock" as in "Working dayshift and not being able to log onto the Cellar in nearly a week really fucking sucks moose cock."

Kagen4o4 · 03-15-2006, 10:16 PM

2 dollar whore is another good one

mrnoodle · 03-17-2006, 11:56 AM

You're continuing to make my point by making this a flamewar -- why can't I defend my religion without being compared to nutcases who kill in the name of God? What you're saying is "You can have your little religion, but you have to remain silent about it, or at least make it palatable to everyone who is nonreligious; otherwise, you're a jihadist." Sorry, that's not how it works.

And people don't say "xtian" to show off their knowledge of Greek...at least be honest. Visit any "I'm an atheist, I'm special" site, and you will see it's used derogatorily in most cases.

"fucking xtians"
"why are you being derogatory?"
"HAHAHAHAHA X is Greek for Chi, got you!!!11"

meh.

jinx · 03-17-2006, 12:48 PM

Got you? Uh, no, I used an abbreviation (like I used JFC several times instead of spelling it out). Its my understanding that "xtian" and "xtianity" have been in fairly common use since the 1500's - but if you've seen them used on athiest sites, they're obviously just used to be offensive. Yeah.

Ok, whatever. I was trying to explain my perspective on this to you, but I'm not getting anywhere. Enjoy your righteous anger my friend, I think I'll go try to teach a pig to sing now...

Trilby · 03-17-2006, 12:50 PM

Chick: I am SO freakin' turned on by your description: Dude: I totally forget what you meant but I soooo relate. Look: Jinx et Wolf: I indeed wish to fuck mrnoodle. This is not based on any logic but soley upon pictures.

No fighting. I'm coming to forks in Aug., I only hope you've a great casserole!

wolf · 03-17-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

No fighting. I'm coming to forks in Aug., I only hope you've a great casserole!

If you come to forks in August, you will miss it.

It's in June.

I am awaiting confirmation on the date, but by the algorithm, it should be June 24/25.

03-15-2006, 06:53 PM	#1
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Mr.noodle I hear what you're saying about intent versus word choice, and I completely agree. If I feel that someone is trying to piss me off they'll get a much different reaction than someone who happens to use a word or phrase I personally find offensive. But for you to decide what someones intent is, based only on their choice of words, is wrong. I'm telling you right now that when JFC comes out of my mouth it's certainly not my intent to "sully the name and image of something sacred". Nope, my intent is to swear, to release anger, because I've spilled my tea, lost my keys, or otherwise experienced minor displeasure. JFC being one of many in my personal repertoire. Now if I actually wanted to insult someone, I don't think just saying JFC to them would get it done for me. And if jesus's name or image were sacred to me, I'd be a xtian, and likely would never say JFC in the first place. What decency has to do with any of this, I'm not sure. If you think that saying "fuck off, you lowlife cunt" is any more decent than saying JFC (keeping intent in mind).... well, again we disagree. The only way that would make any sense to me is if you equate "decent" with "xtian". __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good. Last edited by jinx; 03-15-2006 at 07:01 PM.

03-15-2006, 07:55 PM	#8
Stress Puppy Elite Elitist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 359	Oh, I have a friend, who has trained her fiancee to just listen patiently when she's had a bad day, then at the end say, "Stupid fuckheads." __________________ ~Stress Puppy~ Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur

03-15-2006, 09:18 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I have been known, on occasion, to refer to the sort of woman that folks with fewer social graces might call a cunt as a "brainless receptacle of sperm." Yes, I know that a good number of the menfolk here just wondered "what's so bad about that?" One of my other favorites is "sucks moose cock" as in "Working dayshift and not being able to log onto the Cellar in nearly a week really fucking sucks moose cock." __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-17-2006, 11:56 AM	#12
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	You're continuing to make my point by making this a flamewar -- why can't I defend my religion without being compared to nutcases who kill in the name of God? What you're saying is "You can have your little religion, but you have to remain silent about it, or at least make it palatable to everyone who is nonreligious; otherwise, you're a jihadist." Sorry, that's not how it works. And people don't say "xtian" to show off their knowledge of Greek...at least be honest. Visit any "I'm an atheist, I'm special" site, and you will see it's used derogatorily in most cases. "fucking xtians" "why are you being derogatory?" "HAHAHAHAHA X is Greek for Chi, got you!!!11" meh. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

03-17-2006, 12:48 PM	#13
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Got you? Uh, no, I used an abbreviation (like I used JFC several times instead of spelling it out). Its my understanding that "xtian" and "xtianity" have been in fairly common use since the 1500's - but if you've seen them used on athiest sites, they're obviously just used to be offensive. Yeah. Ok, whatever. I was trying to explain my perspective on this to you, but I'm not getting anywhere. Enjoy your righteous anger my friend, I think I'll go try to teach a pig to sing now... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

03-15-2006, 10:16 PM	#11
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	2 dollar whore is another good one

03-17-2006, 12:50 PM	#14
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Chick: I am SO freakin' turned on by your description: Dude: I totally forget what you meant but I soooo relate. Look: Jinx et Wolf: I indeed wish to fuck mrnoodle. This is not based on any logic but soley upon pictures. No fighting. I'm coming to forks in Aug., I only hope you've a great casserole! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

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