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Old 11-13-2004, 04:53 PM   #46
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That's because you don't live in a society where they would stone you to death if they found out you even saw Salaam's salami.
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Old 11-15-2004, 06:30 AM   #47
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I heard a new story about Gonzales this morning on Imus from they guy that runs the Congressional Quarterly. Apparently, when Bush was the gubner of TX, he made a point of telling everyone that he, as a man of the people, would serve on jury duty whenever called upon to do so. Sure enough, he was selected for a case. Turned out (gulp) to be a drunk driving case.

So in the course of fulfilling his civic obligations, he was presented with a questionairre to complete. Well, one of the questions was "...have you ever been convicted of driving while intoxicated?" Uhhhhhh... drops pencil... Enter Gonzales who, through some fancy legal construction, made the case that [oversimplication of legal-schmegal] since Bush, as gubner, was able to grant paroles and pardons, Bush should not serve on a jury [/oversimplication]. It worked and Bush was exempted.

The questionairre was never filled out
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:38 AM   #48
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We do have that obligation, but we don't have the obligation to commit suicide to defend the principle.
I don't either. It's not "committing suicide" to provide POWs with food, shelter and freedom from physical and mental abuse. No matter how horrible we think these prisoners are, we don't need to sink to their level.

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Perhaps I'm biased, too, in that I would kind of enjoy having a boyish woman point and laugh at my genitals while I stand there naked. If only we could cap it off with a drink and a laugh about it. "Hey, thumbs up, ha ha ha."
You're forgetting that these men were MUSLIMS. It may be humorous to us, but according to their religion and morality, nudity in front of strange women isn't real cool. it wasn't just fun and games on behalf of the people who did this to them--they knew how humiliating this was to these men. At least now some of them are paying the price for what they did.
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:09 AM   #49
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Uh-oh. More are leaving, this morning.

Colin Powell Resigns
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:14 AM   #50
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I'd be sad that the only moderating force in the administration was leaving, but I don't think they listened to him anyway.
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:48 AM   #51
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Maybe he'll write a "come clean" book.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:00 PM   #52
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The word is that Bush was having Powell movement problems so he had his Colin removed.


OK, so I wont consider stand up as a second job...
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:07 PM   #53
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The word is that Bush was having Powell movement problems so he had his Colin removed.


OK, so I wont consider stand up as a second job...
For that you must die...
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:16 PM   #54
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I think, more than any other cabinet member, Bush's policies impacted Colin.
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Old 11-16-2004, 01:58 PM   #55
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There goes the last moderate, with only a modest amount of tongue in cheek, god help us all now.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:59 PM   #56
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Will Colin Blow? There's a big book deal waitin'.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:04 PM   #57
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I think Powell and the other guys are pretty smart getting out when they did. Four years from now we'll still be in Iraq, thousands more of our soldiers will have died there, and everyone involved will be looking pretty bad. At least they saved face by getting out early. Nobody listened to Powell anyway, so why should he bother staying in there?
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Old 11-16-2004, 08:52 PM   #58
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The word is that Bush was having Powell movement problems so he had his Colin removed.


OK, so I wont consider stand up as a second job...

I thought it was funny! Clever and disgusting at the same time, nice work
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:07 AM   #59
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I thought it was funny! Clever and disgusting at the same time, nice work

Thank you. Thank you very much!
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