Clinton

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[Griff]

Barack Obama, the freshman senator from Illinois, on Wednesday shook up the Democratic presidential race when he announced that he had virtually matched Hillary Clinton's $26m fund-raising record in the last 10 weeks.

Mr Obama, 45, who only came to national attention in 2004 when he gave a widely lauded speech at the Democratic national convention, also announced that 100,000 people had donated to his campaign – almost twice the number of people donating to Mrs Clinton.

Maybe the coronation will have to wait for the voters?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Wonder how much of the 25 mil came from Rove's Rascals?

[Griff]

Is Rove really that formidable? I think the Dems give him way to much power.

[DanaC]

Urbane Guerilla is American Dad.

[Griff]

? Am I missing something? (more than usual)

[Clodfobble]

There's a show called "American Dad" done by the people who did "Family Guy."

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

There's a show called "American Dad" done by the people who did "Family Guy."

Thanky

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Sure sweetie, as soon as you get your head out of your ass and figure out what's really going on.

In other words, dear Bruce, you don't have an argument that beats mine. So you sneer. NOT impressive. If it weren't for your generally praiseworthy pro-gun/antigenocidal stance, what would you have going for you?

Tw continues in his delusive thinking. Well, it's good that the resident commie stays busy with mental masturbation, as he'd be dangerous otherwise. Since I know more history than he does and am willing to show it, he grouses, and waves his micropenis.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

He claims that starting foreign wars is libertarian.

Removing the obstacles dictatorships present to libertarianism is going to mean removing the dictatorships, no?

To someone who really wants libertarianism around, I don't think it'd matter very much in practice which party shot first. He'd be concerned more with the final outcome of any such struggle -- which may be a protracted-conflict, guerrilla affair. While it's morally comfortable to wait for the antilibertarian dictatorship to initiate the hostilities, there is no guarantee this entity couldn't wipe out the libertarian faction with a first strike, is there? Thus, allowing the opposition the first initiative in violence is dubious in the extreme. Must you sacrifice your founding activists merely to stay in your comfort zone? I doubt they'd go along with that agenda.

You need reminding, apparently, that we did not start the war with Iraq. Iraq managed that all by itself, in 1991, and the present campaign is Part Two. It's one war, put on pause for eleven years by a ceasefire, an armistice. Soldier of Fortune magazine was among the few voices crying in the wilderness through the Nineties, "Finish the job!"

At the risk of boring myself, I'll repeat that it amazes me just how many supposedly intelligent Americans are willing to credit the idea that some other Americans believe Iraq did 9-11. Personally, I can't name a single American who believes that. I've never even heard there are any in my town.

Some turkeys refuse to believe explanations simply because I'm the one making them.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

... it amazes me just how many supposedly intelligent Americans are willing to credit the idea that some other Americans believe Iraq did 9-11. Personally, I can't name a single American who believes that. I've never even heard there are any in my town.

You should listen to yourself talk.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

You should listen to yourself talk.

Oh, I do.* And it's a damn sight more enjoyable than listening to anti-Americans talk, I'll tell ya. I know you're trying to steer us wrong, tw, and I resent it: the America-must-lose faction is an enemy of humanity, and it behooves humanity to dispose of them.

I doubt I'll ever know why you bother. I imagine you could write one of your lengthy explanations, and I'd plod through the whole thing cutting my way through the verbal underbrush, and at the end look you in the eye and say, "You are out of your mind."

*Especially when memorizing lines for a play.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Oh, I do.* And it's a damn sight more enjoyable than listening to anti-Americans talk,

Hey UG - how is Chapter One of Thomas Barnett's book coming. As soon as I read you were reading it, I wondered how far you would get before you realized it criticized your "political agendas". Or was the logic too difficult. But UG - you promised "So far, I'm fascinated. I'll probably be talking about this book's ideas from time to time. ."

You needed Wikipedia to understand Tawana Brawly? No wonder you keep returning Thomas Barnet to the library unread.

[Hime]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Who likes Clinton? She is higher in the polls but I have yet to meet someone that supports her.

My mom supports her, I think more because she identifies with her as a woman of a certain generation than anything else.

I wish that more politicians would come out and say that it's OK to be gay, even if it would make it harder for them to get elected.

[glatt]

My wife supports Clinton.

I'm not so sure. She'd likely be a lesser of evils to me, depending on who she was up against. Right now, I don't much like anyone on either side. It's too early to be talking about this crap.