There are no illegal immigrants in America - Page 30

Radar · 01-09-2008, 11:41 AM

It's too bad they don't read too well in the south. California is certainly better than every southern state combined, and the most poorly educated Mexican here is more intelligent and classy than the best redneck from down there.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

But not the migration of any other people that states choose to admit.

The people in question were slaves that the states chose to admit. The migration of them (movement) refers to moving slaves from one state to another. No "people" other than slaves were discussed in that clause.

lookout123 · 01-09-2008, 11:50 AM

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and the most poorly educated Mexican here is more intelligent and classy than the best redneck from down there.

Way to really stick it to 'em Radar.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 11:52 AM

Georgia is starting to arrest them and have them deported by ICE. Since they are here illegally they don't have much recourse. The state is also going after the businesses. All good stuff.

Happy Monkey · 01-09-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

The people in question were slaves that the states chose to admit. The migration of them (movement) refers to moving slaves from one state to another. No "people" other than slaves were discussed in that clause.

Nothing in the passage supports that claim.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 12:13 PM

Everything in the passage supports it. It talks about the migration of slaves and the importation of slaves, and the fact that the federal government can't abolish slavery before 1808 but may charge a tax or duty for them.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Georgia is starting to arrest them and have them deported by ICE. Since they are here illegally they don't have much recourse. The state is also going after the businesses. All good stuff.

Instead of the minuteman project, maybe I should join a Patriot Project where we take up arms against members of the unconstitutional ICE department and allow the immigrants to cross the border unmolested.

lookout123 · 01-09-2008, 12:23 PM

Maybe you should. It would draw your issue to a head. You would then have the finest lawyers and constitutional scholars debating the issue in the public realm and the issue can be put to rest.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Instead of the minuteman project, maybe I should join a Patriot Project where we take up arms against members of the unconstitutional ICE department and allow the immigrants to cross the border unmolested.

I would love if you would, that is actually a grand idea. And as lookout stated, after you are arrested by the Border Patrol and put in prison for supporting illegal criminals you can challenge all of your fantasies in a court of law. I think it would be a good thing for you. You probably don't pay taxes either.

regular.joe · 01-09-2008, 01:04 PM

Crap, we'd have to pay for his lawyer.....

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 01:09 PM

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Crap, we'd have to pay for his lawyer.....

Ugggggggggg... No we wouldn't, he told me earlier in this thread as he was in the Military for four years, got out and now makes more money than most general officers. So I say since he will be involved in smuggling more illegal aliens into the country we just get the feds to go seize all his assets, money, house, cars, whatever. Then we could use it to pay his public defender.

Radar · 01-09-2008, 01:10 PM

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I would love if you would, that is actually a grand idea. And as lookout stated, after you are arrested by the Border Patrol and put in prison for supporting illegal criminals you can challenge all of your fantasies in a court of law. I think it would be a good thing for you. You probably don't pay taxes either.

I don't think a dead border patrol agent is going to be able to arrest me.

Also, I pay plenty of taxes. I'd even pay income taxes if you or anyone can show me the law that compels me to do so. Joe Bannister, John Turner, and Sherry Jackson are all former IRS agents who quit their jobs when they couldn't find that law. When they asked the IRS to show them the law that compels us to pay income taxes so they would know they were doing the right thing, they were told they could resign and were not shown any law.

The government is my servant, and I am its master. If my servant doesn't abide by my rules (The U.S. Constitution) I will stop feeding the servant until he gets his act straight.

lookout123 · 01-09-2008, 01:14 PM

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I don't think a dead border patrol agent is going to be able to arrest me.

absolutely brilliant retort rambo. Your faith in your convictions is so weak that you would kill a guy doing his job rather than take the chance that the law doesn't support your view?

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they were told they could resign and were not shown any law.

People are allowed to resign from jobs all the time. Often they are encouraged to do so when their mindset doesn't mesh well with the task at hand. That doesn't necessarily prove them right.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

I don't think a dead border patrol agent is going to be able to arrest me.

Also, I pay plenty of taxes. I'd even pay income taxes if you or anyone can show me the law that compels me to do so. Joe Bannister, John Turner, and Sherry Jackson are all former IRS agents who quit their jobs when they couldn't find that law. When they asked the IRS to show them the law that compels us to pay income taxes so they would know they were doing the right thing, they were told they could resign and were not shown any law.

The government is my servant, and I am its master. If my servant doesn't abide by my rules (The U.S. Constitution) I will stop feeding the servant until he gets his act straight.

So now you are threatening to kill a border patrol agent who tries to arrest you....

And you admit to not paying taxes...

You have issues.

Happy Monkey · 01-09-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Everything in the passage supports it. It talks about the migration of slaves and the importation of slaves, and the fact that the federal government can't abolish slavery before 1808 but may charge a tax or duty for them.

No, it doesn't mention slaves. Slavery can be inferred, but only in relation to the importation and duties, not in relation to migration. "Migration" as the forcible movement of slaves between states is a construct you brought in, not one that is in the passage, especially to the exclusion of all other types of migration.

01-09-2008, 11:41 AM	#436
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	It's too bad they don't read too well in the south. California is certainly better than every southern state combined, and the most poorly educated Mexican here is more intelligent and classy than the best redneck from down there. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Georgia is starting to arrest them and have them deported by ICE. Since they are here illegally they don't have much recourse. The state is also going after the businesses. All good stuff. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-09-2008, 12:13 PM	#441
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Everything in the passage supports it. It talks about the migration of slaves and the importation of slaves, and the fact that the federal government can't abolish slavery before 1808 but may charge a tax or duty for them. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Maybe you should. It would draw your issue to a head. You would then have the finest lawyers and constitutional scholars debating the issue in the public realm and the issue can be put to rest. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Crap, we'd have to pay for his lawyer..... __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

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