Tree Jumpers in Da Hood

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

To do this, foot would have to show the abuser a photo of his particular kids, so he'd know which ones to stay away from. Not a good idea to bring them to the forefront of the abuser's mind, in my opinion. I do support showing the kids a picture of him, if you can get one, but around here photos are not included in the public record. Maybe driving past his house so they know for sure where to stay away from. But frankly, the whole "personal threat" thing usually backfires, in my experience. Abusers often abuse women and children for the sense of power that comes with it. If a big scary man threatens the abuser, it just exacerbates his inferiority and makes him more likely to commit another act of abuse sooner rather than later.

As I said, I was just thinking out loud, I didn't intend to give the impression I had a completely worked out plan.

However, I don't agree with your first statement anyhow. He can stay away from footfootfoot's children by staying away from all children without knowing which ones are his. That's the most desirable result of all, and it's certainly possible.

I did try to make clear that there's no "personal threat" involved--I repeatedly said that I want this fellow to know that he's a known person and a known quantity to me, that I and my family are alert to him and his past offenses, that every other target is less undesirable than mine. Don't know which is mine? Not my problem, not a problem at all. I'm not giving him any kind of permission to prey on anyone, only to say that me and mine are not easy, unsuspecting prey.

Your last point about the motivations of abusers, etc. Well. I can imagine your logic might fit for some kinds of abuse, namely spousal abuse for example, where power is at play. But it doesn't seem as good a fit for the motivation of sexual abuse of children. Physical abuse? Yeah, I could see that. Babies get shaken all the time by frustrated men who can't "control" the crying of the baby, etc. Like I said, I have scant details about the situation in his neighborhood. But to take the opposite tack, lie low, don't draw attention, don't make him mad or feel inferior... That doesn't sound like a good safety plan. There is no security through obscurity. Inciting him to commit further sexual abuse of children because I "made him feel more inferior" doesn't sound logical, BUT THEN, the whole fucked up situation inside the head of child abusers isn't logical to me either, so wtf.

One is tempted to say there is no defense against such assaults, but that's not true. There ARE ways to reduce the risk, and all of them involve awareness, mostly on the part of the parents, and of the children. I've had training that talked about how to help reduce the risks to the children. It is not hopeless, children are not helpless.

• doing nothing distinguishes me and mine not at all from the rest of the population
• you've suggested that my ideas about speaking up may well put my children at greater risk because I've made him feel even more inferior by my breast-beating; that he'd abuse sooner (though upon rereading, you didn't say abuse **my** kids sooner, just "sooner")
• this doesn't follow for me, I've never gotten the sense that abusers abuse (sexual abuse, not physical abuse) out of revenge.

[footfootfoot]

At my phone so again, brief and not addressing everyone's many points. The realistic issue was alluded to by sexobon. We have two drugstores, a grocery store, two convenience shops that are side by each,* a hardware store, a few realtors, a bookshop, two pizza places, a Chinese restaurant, A library, a post office, a bank, and one or two other shops. The town is only about ten blocks long and four blocks wide.

I don't think he poses a real threat, a number of photos of him are on the nonce alert website. It's more an annoyance like having dog shit on your shoe and not discovering it until you are in rush hour traffic in the winter and the heat has come on.

The fact remains one is likely to encounter the guy at one of the local stores. Though thinking about it, if I was in his place I'd make the drive to Albany or Saratoga.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by BigV

you've suggested that my ideas about speaking up may well put my children at greater risk because I've made him feel even more inferior by my breast-beating; that he'd abuse sooner (though upon rereading, you didn't say abuse **my** kids sooner, just "sooner")

Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate anything personally negative about your approach. I'm extremely non-confrontational by nature, so it's not surprising that my brain can come up with a million and one reasons to avoid the guy rather than talking to him.

[sexobon]

Anyone who offends me is gonna have to get registered, it's the law.

[orthodoc]

But I keep the rolls, sexobon ... offenders and offended.

Pony up.

[footfootfoot]

what about a ponce? what's that?

Originally Posted by DanaC

Well, it means for the time being (for the nonce). But it's only used like that within that phrase.

Mostly, if you hear someone use the word nonce it means sex offender.



[eta] according to wikipedia:



That made me giggle. I doubt they have much of a British following, or at least not one that would wear the name on t-shirts :P

[Sundae]

Teh gay.
Although it can also mean a pimp.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

But the people take to calling the monsters 'Jumpers' because they travel in the tree tops and jump on their victims when they attack.

So, 'Tree Jumpers' kind of ties in. Have you read this book, foot? Cuz I can't figure out why else you refer to those types this way.

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

That's prison slang for any sexual offenders. i.e. they jump out from behind a tree...

In my early days at the cellar there was a user called 404error or something who used to be a prison guard, he used that term and there was a discussion about it.


Here it is:http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=7...ht=tree+jumper

Thank God. I'd about warped my fragile little mind. I kept hearing 'tree jumper' in my head, and could only work out a cross between a drop bear and a molester.

[monster]

I just keep thinking flying squirrels in hoodies

[xoxoxoBruce]

Hmmm...

[footfootfoot]

I need that outfit.

[sexobon]

Squirell nutkin wants to do some base jumping does he?

[footfootfoot]

Wingsuit flying is definitely on my bucket list. Might be best to save it for last, just in case...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Anybody can do it once.