Vegan no more - Page 3

Clodfobble · 11-23-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Sorry, but I'm that amoral. I'd never hurt Diz, and I'm pretty sure I'd never kill a family member. But if it came down to my survival, I'm I'd eat them when they're gone.

Me too. I'm always kind of mystified by the taboo of cannibalism (aside from the questionable health of it, long-term.) I would not kill another person to eat them, of course. But if I were dying of starvation, and there were dead pets or people available, I would absolutely eat them. I would think my family would want me to use their body so that I didn't die myself. I would certainly hope they would do the same to me, rather than bury me and starve shortly after.

Lamplighter · 11-23-2010, 01:36 PM

Unfortunately, no one knows anything else about the Donner family despite the efforts of the descendants to change their brand.

classicman · 11-23-2010, 01:38 PM

<deleted inappropriate comment>

I'd eat another person to stay alive - much like the soccer team whose plane crashed in the mountains...

footfootfoot · 11-23-2010, 02:45 PM

I've eaten plenty of voles and almost never eat any family members.
What is all the hoopla?

Aliantha · 11-23-2010, 05:37 PM

I personally don't think human beings should feel guilty about their place on the food chain. Every animal strives to reach the highest point on said chain that they can, including sharks and big cats, who don't mind eating a bit of long pork every now and then of course.

We are not physiologically designed to be vegetarians. For starters our gut and our teeth don't particularly like it. We need more protien in our diet than a person in their normal course of life can achieve by eating just vegetarian options. Of course, thanks to advances in food production, we can suppliment a vegetarian diet so that we can be healthy, but at what expense?

There are pros and cons to all diet choices and when it comes down to it, individual health is the least of them as far as the rest of the world goes, but we cater for each other because that's the way our society works.

No one judges the lion when he eats an antelope because he's just doing what comes naturally. Why judge a human for doing what comes naturally?

footfootfoot · 11-23-2010, 09:27 PM

I noticed how you neatly sidestepped the question of Voles vs offspring in your gastronomic analysis.

richlevy · 11-23-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Has anyone ever eaten horse meat?

Does a pig with a sore throat count?

Aliantha · 11-23-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

I noticed how you neatly sidestepped the question of Voles vs offspring in your gastronomic analysis.

That's cause I don't eat voles or my offspring. I do sometimes eat my husband though. Does that count?

classicman · 11-23-2010, 10:14 PM

We'd have to ask him, now wouldn't we.

Juniper · 11-23-2010, 11:26 PM

Only if you swallow.

Ooh, did I say that?

Tulip · 11-23-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhianne

I wouldn't want to guess at percentages but by far the majority of cheese sold in the UK is, nowadays, of the 'veggie' type.

I'm assuming folk know the difference.

To make cheese milk must be separated into curds and whey. Traditionally this has been done using rennet obtained from the stomach of a calf which is still being fed by its mother - a process which of course requires chopping the baby cow up into bits.

In veggie cheeses (and generally kosher/halal ones too) a substitute to rennet is used, usually fungi based.

Have a look on the ingredients next time you buy cheese, there's a good chance you are already eating a 'veggie' type at least some of the time without realising it.

I've always assumed a (ovo-lacto) vegetarian can eat cheese. I guess not! So, if rennet is used in the process of making the cheese, it should be listed in the ingredients?

Gravdigr · 11-24-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I do sometimes eat my husband though. Does that count?

Depends. Do you chew him up?

I have a female friend that I eat occasionally. I don't chew her up though. Well, maybe a nibble here and there...

Aliantha · 11-24-2010, 06:41 PM

He doesn't like it when I chew; strangely enough. lol

Anyway, better stop talking about this. Apparently I'm getting a reputation.

Juniper · 11-24-2010, 11:20 PM

Seriously, inquiring minds want to know. If you are a vegetarian, can you swallow, you-know-what?

Not that I would anyway. Yuck.

footfootfoot · 11-25-2010, 12:37 AM

There's the difference between love and like.

11-23-2010, 01:38 PM	#33
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	<deleted inappropriate comment> I'd eat another person to stay alive - much like the soccer team whose plane crashed in the mountains... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-23-2010, 02:45 PM	#34
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I've eaten plenty of voles and almost never eat any family members. What is all the hoopla? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

11-23-2010, 05:37 PM	#35
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I personally don't think human beings should feel guilty about their place on the food chain. Every animal strives to reach the highest point on said chain that they can, including sharks and big cats, who don't mind eating a bit of long pork every now and then of course. We are not physiologically designed to be vegetarians. For starters our gut and our teeth don't particularly like it. We need more protien in our diet than a person in their normal course of life can achieve by eating just vegetarian options. Of course, thanks to advances in food production, we can suppliment a vegetarian diet so that we can be healthy, but at what expense? There are pros and cons to all diet choices and when it comes down to it, individual health is the least of them as far as the rest of the world goes, but we cater for each other because that's the way our society works. No one judges the lion when he eats an antelope because he's just doing what comes naturally. Why judge a human for doing what comes naturally? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-23-2010, 09:27 PM	#36
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I noticed how you neatly sidestepped the question of Voles vs offspring in your gastronomic analysis. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

11-23-2010, 10:14 PM	#39
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	We'd have to ask him, now wouldn't we. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-23-2010, 01:36 PM	#32
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Unfortunately, no one knows anything else about the Donner family despite the efforts of the descendants to change their brand.

11-23-2010, 11:26 PM	#40
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	Only if you swallow. Ooh, did I say that?

11-24-2010, 06:41 PM	#43
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	He doesn't like it when I chew; strangely enough. lol Anyway, better stop talking about this. Apparently I'm getting a reputation. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-24-2010, 11:20 PM	#44
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	Seriously, inquiring minds want to know. If you are a vegetarian, can you swallow, you-know-what? Not that I would anyway. Yuck.

11-25-2010, 12:37 AM	#45
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	There's the difference between love and like. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

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