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Old 01-12-2010, 09:07 PM   #31
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I had the full RNY on 12/8/08, so I'm just over a year out Still losing (when I do what I'm supposed to - that's the hard part!)
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:32 PM   #32
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:44 PM   #33
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I had the full RNY on 12/8/08, so I'm just over a year out Still losing (when I do what I'm supposed to - that's the hard part!)
Hang in there, you have gotten over the worst part of it. The first year was the hardest for me, learning how to eat again. You are right about doing what you are supposed to do, that is the hardest part but the most beneficial. Please take your daily vitamins if you aren't. That is crucial to your recovery as well as your well being.

I'm here for ya if you need any support or anything from someone who's been there.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:29 PM   #34
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I had the full RNY on 12/8/08, so I'm just over a year out Still losing (when I do what I'm supposed to - that's the hard part!)
What does R N Y stand for?

and isn't gastric bypass a procedure that makes your capacity for food so tiny that you physically CAN'T over eat?

how then can you NOT 'do what you're supposed to do'? I don't know enough to ask about this politely, and i'm not trying to be rude to you.....but could you elaborate?
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:12 PM   #35
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R N Y stands for Roux-En-Y don't really know what that means exactly but there are several hundred websites that describe exactly what it is and how it works in medical terms which go way beyond my head!! So I will attempt it in simple terms as I understand it...:p

The doc cuts a very small pouch from your stomach (about the size of a thimble) and re-attaches it to your small intestine. Some doctors totally take out the rest of your stomach, but my doc left it just free floating in my gut because it is still a living organ producing necessary gastric juices..(yuck!) That way it serves 2 purposes...1 is obviously smaller intakes and 2 is less absorption to the body. Yes, your new stomach will stretch to evidently become about a 4 oz pouch but it takes some getting used to. If you don't follow doctors orders exactly it can lead to vomitting, dumping syndrome, and other fun stuff. It causes rapid weight loss as your body adjusts to the new amounts.

As long as you eat the necessary amounts of protein, drink plenty of water, avoid carbonated drinks, don't overeat, and take your daily supplements, you do fine. Otherwise...well it's not so pleasant.

I hope this answers your questions.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:53 AM   #36
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Thousands of years from now, they're going to find one of us frozen in the tundra of the unexpected Ice Age, and they're going to examine it top to bottom... but try as they might, their cultural anthropologists will have absolutely no explanation for the surgically disconnected stomach. They will conclude it must either be part of a religious ceremony, or torture of an enemy.
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:10 PM   #37
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Ha! Never thought of that, clod, but guess what else they will find when they examine me???? My skinny ass in a pair of tight jeans with perky tits and if they look at my disconnected stomach then the other anthropologists can conclude that they are either gay or ball less monks! LOL
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:25 PM   #38
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Won't we have kept better records than, say, cavemen?
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Old 01-13-2010, 04:05 PM   #39
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You think that stuff's gonna survive the apocalypse? I don't know about you, but if I'm dying of hypothermia, those priceless cultural records are going to make a very nice bonfire.

Juju, I think you're a lot hotter now than you will be then. On the other hand, Otzi does have a lovely tan.
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Thousands of years from now, they're going to find one of us frozen in the tundra of the unexpected Ice Age, and they're going to examine it top to bottom... but try as they might, their cultural anthropologists will have absolutely no explanation for the surgically disconnected stomach. They will conclude it must either be part of a religious ceremony, or torture of an enemy.
Heh. When I was in elementary school, I had to write an essay from the point of view of a future archaeologist about a modern item. Even at such a tender age, I had realized what the archaeologist's default answer was. I wrote that the Wacky Wallwalker must have had some religious significance.
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:30 PM   #42
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Another tale of archeology making a mistake.



A team of archaeologists were working in Jerusalem when they found a slab of rock with five figures carved on it. In order the figures were:

1) A Woman. 2) A Donkey. 3) A Shovel. 4) A Fish. 5) A Star of David.

After months of studying the rock and figures on it, the leader took the rock and went on a lecture tour. He said the carvings were several thousands of years old but even so they revealed a lot about the people of that time.

1) The woman being placed first in the line of figures indicated that women were held in very high esteem. It was most likely a family oriented culture.

2) The donkey indicated they had domesticated animals. They probably used the donkey to till the fields.

3) The shovel shows they were highly intelligent as they knew how to make tools.

4) The fish shows they knew how to augment the crops they raised by also reaping from the sea.

5) The Star of David of course indicates they were a very religious group of people.

A little old man in the front row finally got the attention of the speaker. When acknowledged he said "I'm sorry to you buddy, but Hebrew reads from right to left. What it really says is:

"Holy mackerel dig the ass on that woman!"
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:16 PM   #43
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What does R N Y stand for?

and isn't gastric bypass a procedure that makes your capacity for food so tiny that you physically CAN'T over eat?

how then can you NOT 'do what you're supposed to do'? I don't know enough to ask about this politely, and i'm not trying to be rude to you.....but could you elaborate?
Didn't take it as rude at all (Was just swamped at work or I'd have replied earlier).

JuJu pretty much covered the 'technical' aspects of the surgery -(Image below shows you how you're re-plumbed)



When it comes to not doing what I'm supposed to do - I have problems eating 'firm proteins'. We're all a little different - but for me, if I eat anything over 3/4 c of food at a time, I am a sick puppy. I also have trouble eating 'firm proteins - certain things give me a lot of problems. (Ground beef = EVIL!) With the problems that I have, I find myself turning to things that we call 'slider foods' which tend to be higher in carbs than I should really have - I should be getting 80-90g of protein a day, but when I eat that many grams, I feel physically ill, unless I'm drinking protein shakes which is what I'm doing lately..(no jokes about the man made protein shakes, I get that at work *G*) Also, if you drink with what you eat, it slides through your stoma faster, and you end up hungry sooner....which leads to a pretty stupid cycle...eat, drink, hunger, eat drink, hunger...lather rinse repeat.

I'm back on track for now, so tomorrow I'll post what I had for the day, so you can see a 'typical' day for someone in the active loss phase of WLS. And actually, when I do what I'm supposed to do, I'm not hungry - my pouch just doesn't WANT food. (And my pants fall off faster!)

It's a tough row to hoe- but seeing that I'm not taking any meds for my Diabetes, when I was taking 2 shots and 2 pills a day, and only one pill (very low dosage) for hypertension, I'll take the struggle

Besides, My ass looks awesome in jeans according to my hubby *G* That's also a plus!
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:27 PM   #44
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Hang in there, you have gotten over the worst part of it. The first year was the hardest for me, learning how to eat again. You are right about doing what you are supposed to do, that is the hardest part but the most beneficial. Please take your daily vitamins if you aren't. That is crucial to your recovery as well as your well being.

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JuJu,

You can say that again, one thing I constantly deal with is the 'old habits' that I left behind before surgery - I was a HUGE stress eater -when I'd get worked up at work, carbs were my friend - now, I have to find another way to get rid of that frustration...needless to say, I am VERY productive

Life is good though, as I mentioned above, I'd do it again in a heart beat. It grates my nerves to hear some folks (no one here) say that I took the 'easy way out'. By no measure is my life 'easy'. I have to be conscious of what I do, how I do it, and what I'm putting in my mouth every minute of the day. Someone asked me the other day if it's worth it. My body was dragging me down the path into an ugly place if I didn't do SOMETHING about it, and I knew that this was the only way I could do something about it. It was the right choice for me, and I'm glad I did it Won't see me in the Nakey Thread any time soon, but hey, I like what I see in the mirror!

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Old 01-14-2010, 09:26 AM   #45
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It grates my nerves to hear some folks (no one here) say that I took the 'easy way out'. By no measure is my life 'easy'. I have to be conscious of what I do, how I do it, and what I'm putting in my mouth every minute of the day.

My body was dragging me down the path into an ugly place if I didn't do SOMETHING about it,

Dag
Dag, you have NO idea how many people who don't understand what you truly go through have told me I took the 'simple' or 'easy' way out! I want to scream
'you have NO fucking idea!' when I hear that comment! And now that I am 3 yrs out my struggle is truly beginning. The first 2 years your body kinda does the hard work for you as long as you make the right decisions about what you put in your body. But now...I'm back to having to doing the hard work for myself and I am really having some issues getting motivated to do it! I have all the right equipment for working out but just can't seem to get motivated to do it.

I believe that when capn gets over all this teeth surgery things will improve because (especially after he reads this. HAHA) he will encourage me and even exercise with me and it will be easier to find that motivation.

I have noticed my once loose clothes are now getting snug again so I know that I have no time to loose if I'm not careful!
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