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Old 09-02-2004, 01:52 PM   #16
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He lost Wisconsin today (as per the note at the bottom of the page), which he had only picked up a week or so ago. I suspect the final map will look much like todays, but with Pennsylvania and Iowa blue, and Nevada and Colorado red.
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Old 09-02-2004, 01:58 PM   #17
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Here is the text of Zell Miller's speech.

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Old 09-02-2004, 02:12 PM   #18
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Amusingly, as Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney opposed all of the weapons systems that Miller accuses Kerry of opposing.
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Old 09-02-2004, 03:29 PM   #19
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Words, words, words.

A linguistic investigation into the conventions.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:36 PM   #20
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On New polls in AL, MI, SD & WI.
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Old 09-02-2004, 10:27 PM   #21
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With 1,191 arrests from convention-related protests on Tuesday, Manhattan broke the record for the most arrests in one borough in one day, according to the Office of Court Administration.

I would've been there with 'em if I could. This girl loves a good protest.
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Old 09-03-2004, 10:54 AM   #22
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GOP backs away from Miller’s blast.
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:01 AM   #23
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i think his delivery sucked even though i like some of what he said. unfortunately that is zell miller when he gets on the platform. nobody really cried too much when he did the same thing while he was in clinton's corner at the '92 convention. Miller is just one seriously intense old man who gets a little too wrapped up in the rhetoric.
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:31 PM   #24
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hey Griff, I had heard something about the whole git-mo style cages, but have yet to run across an article on it.. maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.. (or my local media isn't so keen on making the RNC/NYC PD look bad...) I was wondering if you could post a link or something that has some more info on it? thanks

and geez... it did seem like Zig Zag Zell was going to blow a gasket.. and just geez... these people scare me..
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:40 PM   #25
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i think his delivery sucked even though i like some of what he said. unfortunately that is zell miller when he gets on the platform. nobody really cried too much when he did the same thing while he was in clinton's corner at the '92 convention. Miller is just one seriously intense old man who gets a little too wrapped up in the rhetoric.
He sounded like a crazy old ass man...and looked just as crazy too.

No one really "got" me as far as speeches. McCain's was good I thought. Other than that, I fell asleep during Cheney and Bush's speeches, and Guliani came across to me as too smug..that's just me I suppose. *shrugs*
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:50 PM   #26
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well giuliani is a new yorker... a rich new yorker. 'nuff said
i didn't catch cheney's speech.
parts of bush's speech were pretty good, but overall it wasn't that great.
miller was over the top in delivery like i said although much of the text was alright.
arnold is ... well, arnold.

the conventions are just BS rewards for the delegates and volunteers anyway. nothing real happens anyway. back in the really old days, a bunch of party guys went into a back room and decided who was going to be the nominee - sometimes completely to the surprise of the delegates. too bad that didn't happen this time.

the DNC should have canned Kerry and gone with Edwards so they could play the same angles they did with clinton. it probably would have worked again. i don't know who would have been an appropriate VEEP though. maybe lieberman or clark to try to get some of the R's to swing their way.

the RNC should have canned cheney and thrown McCain on the ticket. it would have been a much stronger ticket considering all the baggage cheney is dragging.
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:53 PM   #27
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hey Griff, I had heard something about the whole git-mo style cages, but have yet to run across an article on it.. maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.. (or my local media isn't so keen on making the RNC/NYC PD look bad...) I was wondering if you could post a link or something that has some more info on it? thanks

and geez... it did seem like Zig Zag Zell was going to blow a gasket.. and just geez... these people scare me..

Can't vouch for the source here but I saw these kinds of photos elsewhere. Maybe I'll poke around some more. Click the link under the photo for more pics.
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Old 09-03-2004, 04:06 PM   #28
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the RNC should have canned cheney and thrown McCain on the ticket. it would have been a much stronger ticket considering all the baggage cheney is dragging.
The RNC should have canned both Bush and Cheney, and put McCain and Powell on instead. If they had done that, I would vote Republican for the first time in my life.
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Old 09-03-2004, 04:13 PM   #29
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The RNC should have canned both Bush and Cheney, and put McCain and Powell on instead. If they had done that, I would vote Republican for the first time in my life.
powell's wife has flat out said she would divorce him if he accepted any sort of nomination.

and besides i don't think it would be very smart to have a black vp. i would vote for him for POTUS, but putting him in the VP slot would just put a big(ger) target on the head of POTUS.

there are a few people out there who would be willing to pop the president just to see an african american president. i have said that for a long time. i would vote for a female african,mexican,hawaiin for president, but not for VP.

i just realized how bad that looks on screen, but it is not a racist or sexist thing. it is i don't want to see a president dead thing.
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Old 09-03-2004, 04:15 PM   #30
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Yeah? Well, it was a pipe dream anyway.
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