Baby murder with a cinderblock "Caution"

[tw]

Originally Posted by glatt

You must be thinking of a different Lake Ariel.

They lived in Highland Lake NJ - long a suburb of NYC. He buried the body west in PA. Now even that region has become a suburb of NYC (as a NY Times article some years ago discussed - people do commute that far). Wayne and Pike counties (in PA) were two of the three fastest growing counties in PA at one point this past decade. Even those counties have become bedroom communities to NYC and its inner suburbs.

Those are not rural backwater towns as a poorly informed naysayer would have us believe. The article has no redeeming or useful value. Is only gossip. But is hyperbolic nonsense that any wackoman would think important.

It's another murder no different than what happened in Harlem, Brooklyn, or Kensington. Had he read the article rather than, as usual, jump to conclusions; Highland Lake is an NYC suburb.

A meaningful discussion to, for example, address the lives of children would have, well, he ignored similar murders occurring inside Philly and NYC. And did nothing to discuss the larger issue – the lives of 20% of the children living in poverty. And the attacks on social programs designed to avert these problems. Facts not relevant to his agenda of sensational while ignoring substantive. Noting his trend was so accurate as to inspire him to waste bandwidth with more insults. Expected from one hyped by the sensational.

[classicman]

lol - That situation is beyond help by his doing.
Nothing that is done will bring the child back.

Just rid the planet of this waste. Think of the oxygen.

[DanaC]

I didn't know how old the girl was, I only knew the age of the lad.

In what way do fundamental economic questions affecting everyone in the Cellar 'go undiscussed'? That's blatantly untrue.

If you wish to discuss economic questions start a fucking thread about it. There's plenty of room, we're not running out of space. This thread is about the horrible, sordid murder of a child by its parents. Don;t think that's of any interest or believe its not fit for Cellar discussion? Well then fuck off out of the thread and don't participate. What do you do for an encore, snatch the daily rag from commuters and insist they read a broadsheet?

[tw]

Originally Posted by DanaC

This thread is about the horrible, sordid murder of a child by its parents.

And that is only news to those whose ethics are so low as to think it is even news worthy. Big naked breasts on a Fleet Street rag are equally newsworthy.

Besides, myths were added to the story. They were only kids? It is a rural backwater town? Well tw slept there. Washington also may have. Both are just as newsworthy.

Please. Has the Cellar dropped so low as to give any credence to emotion and gossip? Was she crying? Why don't we know since that too must be important! Show me big tits from Fleet Street. Just as newsworthy.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by tw

And that is only news to those whose ethics are so low as to think it is even news worthy.

Thank FSM that it IS news worthy. There are not a lot of people out there who would kill a child as casually as one might swat a mosquito. When some subhuman miscreant actually does such a thing, it's news. And Dana is right. Since when did every post on the Cellar have to lead to some intellectually uplifting discussion?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Since when did every post on the Cellar have to lead to some intellectually uplifting discussion?

And since when did a discussion with tommyboy ever lead to that.

@tw - Don't like the thread little man - DON'T POST.

Facts ...
It has a population of about 11,000 - Not exactly a large place.
Its a small town near Scranton. Again - pretty rural compared to a city like Philly.
more here

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Thank FSM that it IS news worthy. There are not a lot of people out there who would kill a child as casually as one might swat a mosquito. When some subhuman miscreant actually does such a thing, it's news. And Dana is right. Since when did every post on the Cellar have to lead to some intellectually uplifting discussion?

I agree it is newsworthy in the appalling nature of the act, but I also agree with TW to some degree in that its newsworthiness is largely due to the sensationalism of the act.

Making it much more newsworthy than the millions of children in the US going to bed hungry every night or the fact that a mature and responsible couple cannot adopt and give a loving home to a child in some states if they happen to be the same sex. Issues that if they were discussed more in larger political arenas than the Cellar could result in meaningful actions that would improve the lives of children.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Issues that if they were discussed more in larger political arenas than the Cellar
could result in meaningful actions that would improve the lives of children.

ORLY?

[Nirvana]

well shit back to Weiner's wiener then!

[DanaC]

This is a forum not a newspaper.

[classicman]

Sorry F&B - I misread your post. I thought you were referring to larger discussions IN THE CELLAR having some impact. Haven't had my coffee yet.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

Sorry F&B - I misread your post. I thought you were referring to larger discussions IN THE CELLAR having some impact. Haven't had my coffee yet.

No problem.

I generally avoid the discussions that IMO are more sensational than substantive; just a personal choice and no reflection on others.

[classicman]

To stay a little more on topic -

As a father, I just cannot fathom even the slightest thought of killing one of my children, let alone in the manner it was done.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by classicman

To stay a little more on topic -

As a father, I just cannot fathom even the slightest thought of killing one of my children, let alone in the manner it was done.

Me neither, but to be honest, when they were newborns, it was different. Especially the first one. I hadn't fully "bonded" with the baby yet, and it was crying all the time. I understood the motivation behind infanticide then.

[Spexxvet]

That's why some cultures eat their young.