The Kabaton - Page 2

Gravdigr · 04-04-2011, 11:59 AM

I guess batons don't meet CARB requirements.

wolf · 04-04-2011, 12:25 PM

ASP is the manufacturer of the best and finest expandable baton.

It is important to remember one thing about them. A retired police officer said this in my office the other day, "But your honor, I was attempting to subdue the miscreant by striking a fleshy part of his thigh, but he raised his knee as my arm was swinging downward and it was merely an accident that I struck his kneecap and crushed it."

I have the "tactical flashlight," which is otherwise known as a 5 or 6 D-Cell MagLite. Accept no substitutions.

glatt · 04-04-2011, 02:10 PM

What exactly does "restricted" mean? If it means you can't take it into an airplane or into a courthouse, that seem reasonable. If it means I can't buy it, then that's just crazy.

sexobon · 04-04-2011, 04:05 PM

Restricted in this context means illegal for unauthorized persons to privately purchase and/or to carry the item in public. For instance automatic knives (i.e. switchblades) are illegal for most civilians to purchase and to carry; also, carrying around a knife with a blade over 4" long is illegal in many places although they're legal to purchase.

In other context, it may mean that sales are restricted to only law enforcement; or, other government sanctioned agencies/persons. This can happen whether or not the item is legal for civilians to own and carry in public as the policy stems from liability concerns that the seller may be sued if the item is misused by the buyer. Government contracts often protect the seller from lawsuits if an authorized person misuses the item.

BrianR · 04-04-2011, 05:40 PM

We need to hear from Big Sarge on this one. Although his bailiwick is in Mississippi only, he is likely a good source on the general law enforcement view of such items.

I, personally, find that an inexpensive wooden cane, available at most drugstores, makes a dandy self-defense weapon. It is legal in all jurisdictions, can be carried through a metal detector and is readily available without concealment for instant use. Get training in it's use though. And don't even think of carrying one with a sword hidden in the handle. You can buy a "combat cane" online which is made of heavier gauge wood and has interesting hooks and such built into it. But I spent ten bucks on a basic cane with no combat modifications and no legal problems with it's use and taught a self defense course with it for three years.

I still have it in my closet.

ZenGum · 04-04-2011, 06:44 PM

It must be the only thing left in your closet, right?

lookout123 · 04-04-2011, 07:22 PM

You owe me a monitor Zen.

BrianR · 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM

I have a closet FULL of clothes, I'll have you know!

And I still don't have a THING to wear!

glatt · 04-07-2011, 11:50 AM

In an interesting coincidence after the talk here about restricted weapons, Maine is legalizing switchblade knives for one-armed people. I love Maine. There aren't too many one armed people in the world, but it's discrimination against them to keep them from being able to have a folding knife they can use.

jimhelm · 04-07-2011, 11:51 AM

You should see how well they treat the one armed Paper Hangers up there.

footfootfoot · 04-07-2011, 12:03 PM

haggage

04-04-2011, 11:59 AM	#16
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04-04-2011, 12:25 PM	#17
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	ASP is the manufacturer of the best and finest expandable baton. It is important to remember one thing about them. A retired police officer said this in my office the other day, "But your honor, I was attempting to subdue the miscreant by striking a fleshy part of his thigh, but he raised his knee as my arm was swinging downward and it was merely an accident that I struck his kneecap and crushed it." I have the "tactical flashlight," which is otherwise known as a 5 or 6 D-Cell MagLite. Accept no substitutions. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-04-2011, 05:40 PM	#20
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	We need to hear from Big Sarge on this one. Although his bailiwick is in Mississippi only, he is likely a good source on the general law enforcement view of such items. I, personally, find that an inexpensive wooden cane, available at most drugstores, makes a dandy self-defense weapon. It is legal in all jurisdictions, can be carried through a metal detector and is readily available without concealment for instant use. Get training in it's use though. And don't even think of carrying one with a sword hidden in the handle. You can buy a "combat cane" online which is made of heavier gauge wood and has interesting hooks and such built into it. But I spent ten bucks on a basic cane with no combat modifications and no legal problems with it's use and taught a self defense course with it for three years. I still have it in my closet. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

04-04-2011, 06:44 PM	#21
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04-04-2011, 07:22 PM	#22
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04-04-2011, 02:10 PM	#18
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	What exactly does "restricted" mean? If it means you can't take it into an airplane or into a courthouse, that seem reasonable. If it means I can't buy it, then that's just crazy.

04-04-2011, 04:05 PM	#19
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Restricted in this context means illegal for unauthorized persons to privately purchase and/or to carry the item in public. For instance automatic knives (i.e. switchblades) are illegal for most civilians to purchase and to carry; also, carrying around a knife with a blade over 4" long is illegal in many places although they're legal to purchase. In other context, it may mean that sales are restricted to only law enforcement; or, other government sanctioned agencies/persons. This can happen whether or not the item is legal for civilians to own and carry in public as the policy stems from liability concerns that the seller may be sued if the item is misused by the buyer. Government contracts often protect the seller from lawsuits if an authorized person misuses the item.

04-05-2011, 09:50 PM	#23
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I have a closet FULL of clothes, I'll have you know! And I still don't have a THING to wear! __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

04-07-2011, 11:50 AM	#24
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	In an interesting coincidence after the talk here about restricted weapons, Maine is legalizing switchblade knives for one-armed people. I love Maine. There aren't too many one armed people in the world, but it's discrimination against them to keep them from being able to have a folding knife they can use.

04-07-2011, 11:51 AM	#25
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	You should see how well they treat the one armed Paper Hangers up there. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

04-07-2011, 12:03 PM	#26
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	haggage __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

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