Wild West Politics?

[Nirvana]

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[Nirvana]

I am disappointed that this was moved from the politics forum. If there was ever a topic that needed to be seen in there this is it.

[wolf]

I only merged, I didn't adjust the forum.

it's 50/50 Politics vs. Current Events.

[Pico and ME]

Wasn't it merged into the thread with the first post?

[Nirvana]

I made the first post and it was in the Politics forum where this IMO belonged. I erased my comments because they are not really about CURRENT EVENTS

[wolf]

Yep. Nirvana's post was earlier than Brianna's.

In retrospect, although this is about a political figure, it really is a Current Event, IMO.

[Trilby]

The Arizona congresswoman shot today outside a Tucson Safeway, was featured on Sarah Palin's infamous 'crosshairs' map, which targeted legislators who voted for Obama's health care bill. Remember? The map that was criticized as an incitement to violence?

NOW can we muzzle and hog-tie SP?

[Nirvana]

NOW can we muzzle and hog-tie SP?

I dunno can we talk about politics in the current events?

[Pico and ME]

Nivana, I dont see why you cant have it put back in politics, if you want it there.

[Nirvana]

I knew this would involve political discussion that is why I put it there in politics. I had hoped for civil discussion since people died but it matters not I already erased my posts because they were not pertinent to a current events thread.

I am mad as hell that some people put no value on human life and make political websites or FB pages wishing people dead on both sides of the political spectrum. These people are no better than the extremists that crashed into the twin towers. They are homegrown terrorists. SP included.

[Pico and ME]

Her opponent did something similar this June.

From the Arizona Star...

Jesse Kelly, meanwhile, doesn't seem to be bothered in the least by the Sarah Palin controversy earlier this year, when she released a list of targeted races in crosshairs, urging followers to "reload" and "aim" for Democrats. Critics said she was inciting violence.

He seems to be embracing his fellow tea partier's idea. Kelly's campaign event website has a stern-looking photo of the former Marine in military garb holding his weapon. It includes the headline: "Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."

[smoothmoniker]

Originally Posted by Brianna

The Arizona congresswoman shot today outside a Tucson Safeway, was featured on Sarah Palin's infamous 'crosshairs' map, which targeted legislators who voted for Obama's health care bill. Remember? The map that was criticized as an incitement to violence?

NOW can we muzzle and hog-tie SP?

Is the implication here that Palin intended this as an outcome? Are you suggesting that, absent the crosshair map, the shooter would have decided to write a sternly-worded letter to the editor instead?

Please, spell this out for me. How is there ANY moral responsibility on Sarah Palin for this incident? Vaguely gesturing at a map with crosshairs won't do, explain it to me like I'm an idiot.

Because, if you can't, then you're endorsing the worst kind of idiotic brainless hysteria.

[Pico and ME]

I don't think you can make a plea for reasonableness here Smooth. This rocket will go to the moon. And it wont matter that there is little connection between the killer and the campaign strategy used... their choices were that irresponsible. Both SP and Jesse Kelly have just scrubbed this stuff from their websites.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

I made the first post and it was in the Politics forum where this IMO belonged. I erased my comments because they are not really about CURRENT EVENTS

Whoa, weren't the comments related to the subject of this thread? If so, there's no reason to erase them. It doesn't make any difference what forum it's in, it could be in Home Base for that matter, comments relate to the subject, not the forum.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

Is the implication here that Palin intended this as an outcome? Are you suggesting that, absent the crosshair map, the shooter would have decided to write a sternly-worded letter to the editor instead?

Please, spell this out for me. How is there ANY moral responsibility on Sarah Palin for this incident? Vaguely gesturing at a map with crosshairs won't do, explain it to me like I'm an idiot.

Because, if you can't, then you're endorsing the worst kind of idiotic brainless hysteria.

Her intention was to make political hay, for sure. I doubt this was her intended outcome, and if it was, it couldn't be proven.

We're walking a fine line here, with freedom of speech, political or not, and ridiculous calls for revolution that only nutballs would act on. Unfortunately there are nutballs out there, and calls to "take back our country",(to 1850), have consequences. It's neither responsible nor productive, it rhetoric and counter productive.